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GTR and XU1 verification thread

Started by dattoman , Oct 20 2009 01:52 AM

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#651 S pack

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:50 AM

Hi Bazza , I have a JL434455 last number may be 6 or 8 engine that came out of a 5/73 GTR can you tell me if it is a GTR motor ? It is under other stuff and up against a wall , so I can't get at the date code

G/day Bruce

I know my name isn't Bazza, LOL, but I had a look at the vin listing anyway. Couldn't find your engine number (or alternative ending variations) listed for either Brisbane or Adelaide however recorded engine numbers around yours would suggest it could have come from an 11/73 built car.
Bazza may have a better chance of finding it but I can't.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

Hi

I'm out of town for a few days with no access to my records. I will take a look when I return.

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#653 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:17 PM

Thanks for that Bazza ,

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#654 _threeblindmice_

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:21 PM

Thanks Dave , I didn't see you post , it took me straight to Bazza's reply .

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#655 _OEDINGO_

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

Hi Guys,

Bloody great thread!!!

I have an old Torana in the shed,what I believe is a 1974 LJ GTR. I was hoping this team could provide me with as much detail as possible regarding any details including point of sale,dates,and hopefully an engine number?

Now I may need to confirm these details as they have been written down on an old piece of paper a few years ago. The car is in storage and I should really get of my ass and give it a run. I have several motors in the shed also but the one that came in a crate detailed as the original motor is JL442114 (does this match build dates).

Particulars below:

VIN# = 8D11LDH299910J

155936 ?(not sure what this number is but its written on the sheet)

MODEL = LJ82911

BODY = 299910B

TRIM = 186850X

PAINT = 56715335

Any data would be appreciated.

Kind regards from across the ditch, and yes the car is in NZ.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:43 PM

G/day Dixie

Your LJ GTR 8D11LDH299910J is a Brisbane built car completed on the 26/11/1973 and sold by Dealer 236 in December 1973.
The Betsbac number 76203CO tells us it left the factory with a 3.08:1 ratio diff.
There is no engine number recorded however another GTR H299918 also built on 26/11/1973 was fitted with engine number JL442119 so your 202 with the engine number L442114 would fit as being the original engine.

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#657 _OEDINGO_

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:14 PM

G/day Dixie

Your LJ GTR 8D11LDH299910J is a Brisbane built car completed on the 26/11/1973 and sold by Dealer 236 in December 1973.
The Betsbac number 76203CO tells us it left the factory with a 3.08:1 ratio diff.
There is no engine number recorded however another GTR H299918 also built on 26/11/1973 was fitted with engine number JL442119 so your 202 with the engine number L442114 would fit as being the original engine.

Cheers
Dave

Thanks Dave,

Thats great news the integrity is there. Is there any data on this site or elsewhere to obtain the dealers details against identified numbers in this case 236? Also paint codes and interior details? Obtaining full registers would be a fantastic tool to view on a regular basis for particular references.

Also is there any known register for data of exported cars as in this case my vehicle?

Thanks for your help!

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:52 PM

Thanks Dave,

Thats great news the integrity is there. Is there any data on this site or elsewhere to obtain the dealers details against identified numbers in this case 236? Also paint codes and interior details? Obtaining full registers would be a fantastic tool to view on a regular basis for particular references.

Also is there any known register for data of exported cars as in this case my vehicle?

Thanks for your help!

Yes there is a thread on dealer codes (incomplete though) in the General Questions section of this forum.
Dealer Code 236 B is GMH internal B = Acacia Ridge.

Looks like your GTR may have been bought by a GMH employee at Acacia Ridge then at some time later exported privately to NZ.
Paint code 567 15335 is Orchid metallic
Trim code 50X is black vinyl interior - long grain vinyl.

There is no register that I know of for exported vehicles other than the Service Warranty Records where the dealer code 000X is listed against vehicles that were produced then exported directly to NZ by GMH.

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#659 _OEDINGO_

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:24 PM

Awesome Dave!!

Ive just been in touch with the previous owner and hes informed me he has found the original ownership papers.....hes just got to dig them back out again. These should detail first registry date in NZ and to whom hopefully (probably wont have the GMH dealer on it though.

Do you know if the GMH in Acacia Ridge had a specific ownership name other than GMH? Be interesting to find out its original registration plate, purchaser etc

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#660 _OEDINGO_

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 07:12 PM

Yes there is a thread on dealer codes (incomplete though) in the General Questions section of this forum.
Dealer Code 236 B is GMH internal B = Acacia Ridge.

Looks like your GTR may have been bought by a GMH employee at Acacia Ridge then at some time later exported privately to NZ.
Paint code 567 15335 is Orchid metallic
Trim code 50X is black vinyl interior - long grain vinyl.

There is no register that I know of for exported vehicles other than the Service Warranty Records where the dealer code 000X is listed against vehicles that were produced then exported directly to NZ by GMH.

Hi Dave, How accurate is the data from the service warranty files?
I have obtained the original ownership papers from the guy I purchased the car from, they detail the GTR was sold NEW NZ in Christchurch with 30 kms on speedo. The first NZ owner was recorded to be on 14 FEB 1974 this is stamped on one page and typed on another. The engine number is correct as you expected and the chassis stamped details are correct also. So maybe this unit wasnt purchased internally by a GMH employee? I see the service records also detail its first point of sale was at 236 dealer as you have identified earlier, would it be expected to see a 000X code for an exported car?

Another query did the GM dealers in NZ have dealer numbers aswell? I only ask as WESTPOINT MOTORS LMVD in Christchurch NZ originally sold the car here and has a faded number next to it which looks to be 664?

Thanks for your help!

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#661 _iain#_

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:45 PM

Hi Guys

I know this has been done to death but are there any gurus out there that can shed some info on these tags on a car i am looking to buy

Skinny tag - 82911CH125555

MODEL - LC82911M
BODY - 11000B
TRIM - 1808 41V
PAINT - 56712190

Any info greatly appriciated

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:05 PM

Hi Iain

Please check that VIN, the H125555 part is too low. In addition, can you also provide the Chassis Number which is of critical importance also?

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#663 _iain#_

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:01 PM

Hi Iain

Please check that VIN, the H125555 part is too low. In addition, can you also provide the Chassis Number which is of critical importance also?

Cheers

Bazza

Hi Bazza
My mistake, vin is actully H172555, will see what other info I can get (car is in NZ)
Cheers
Iain

Edited by iain#, 07 June 2012 - 05:03 PM.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:06 PM

Hi Iain

Subject to the Chassis Number according datewise with the completion date, this car appears to be a GTR completed in Brisbane on 29/9/70 and exported the same month.
There is no engine number recorded but the original engine would be around 2600S23xxx

The original colour was Silver Mist Metallic and the trim is Antique Gold vinyl.

Cheers

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#665 _iain#_

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:21 PM

Hi Iain

Subject to the Chassis Number according datewise with the completion date, this car appears to be a GTR completed in Brisbane on 29/9/70 and exported the same month.
There is no engine number recorded but the original engine would be around 2600S23xxx

The original colour was Silver Mist Metallic and the trim is Antique Gold vinyl.

Cheers

Bazza

Mate thanks so much, when i have more info will pm you, cheers and thanks again

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#666 _iain#_

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:53 PM

Hi Iain

Subject to the Chassis Number according datewise with the completion date, this car appears to be a GTR completed in Brisbane on 29/9/70 and exported the same month.
There is no engine number recorded but the original engine would be around 2600S23xxx

The original colour was Silver Mist Metallic and the trim is Antique Gold vinyl.

Cheers

Bazza

Hi Bazza PM sent, chassis no, LC15770E or the last one may be B, hard to make it out
Cheers

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:04 PM

Hi Mate

That would be LC15770B. I have PM's you directly.

Cheers

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:02 PM

hi
my sun as a lc gtr looks to be a early one by the front end it is seating out side no room in shed
chassis no lc 04129a
body no 254-a
vin no 82911CJ203509
the vin no is wrong i think i can't find it on the vin dish
would like more info if any one could help he is thinking of selling it
vin

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:38 PM

Hi Vin

No problem with the numbers on that one. All tag details accord datewise.

The car was completed in Melbourne on 30/11/69 and sold by Winter and Taylor of Geelong during Jan '70

What is the colour and trim?

Cheers

Bazza
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Edited by Bazza, 12 June 2012 - 04:39 PM.

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#670 _vin150cars_

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:50 PM

thanks bazza
trim1194-41x
paint 567-11905
vin

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:36 PM

Antique Gold trim

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:49 PM

Verodo Green Metalic.exterior

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#673 _fat_boy_1976_

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:58 PM

Hi All,

I have a query from a mate with an LC GTR that his young bloke has picked up..... Just wondering if you can shed any light on authenticity etc, maybe even some particulars to confirm.

Details provided are:
LC12828B
Chassis: 8039B
Eng: 2600S19702
VIN: 82911CH164941
Trim: 41V
This is from the original manual

Also, running a 186 with Double barrel Holly Carb, unsure of diff ratio's and also got an auto on the floor (I didn't even know they came out with that??)

Any info provided would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Bill

PS: Love the forum, it's helped me out previously with my old XU-1 (alas, sold due to family commitments - silly me!!!) however now have another LC GTR to put together

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

Hi Bill

Welcome to the forum (once again?)

That VIN relates to a GTR completed in Brisbane on 17/7/70 and sold by Savell Bros Pty Ltd of Forest Rd, Hurstville NSW during Aug '70.

Obviously the engine and carburation are not standard. The car would have originally been fitted with an Opel 4 speed transmission and a 3.08:1 ratio conventional differential.

BTW what is the body colour according to the Body tag or paperwork?

The trim is Gold vinyl.

Cheers

Bazza