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GTR and XU1 verification thread

Started by dattoman , Oct 20 2009 01:52 AM

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#751 Bazza

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

Hi OLJ-08

That VIN comes up as an Adelaide built GTR completed on 8/7/71 and sold by dealer 158 (Sydney Atkinson Motors Pty Ltd of Perth WA) during Sept '71. The colour is Burnished Bronze Metallic and the trim Sandalwood vinyl. The original engine number was CF8216 which makes the car one of the rare 2850S models with the Aussie 4 speed transmission. There were only around 600 of these produced. Here's hoping that it still has the original engine.

More importantly - the VIN and the Body Number are consistent with the build date, but the Chassis Number must also agree with these tags datewise. What number is stamped on the inner passenger side guard? It should start with ALCxxxxx

Let me know what you find concerning the Chassis Number.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

cool mate,thanks for the info....definately think the motor is gone.pretty sure there isn't alot that will come with the car/shell.I'm only asking for a friend who doesn't go on the computer often so i don't know alot of the info for the car.thanks

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#753 _stinklx_

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 05:15 AM

Hi there, can anyone help me to ID this car

82911JL215510
LJ82911-1029A
Trim 1842-4L Y

Any help really aprreciated

Regards Andy

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:42 AM

Hi Andy

That VIN appears on the disc as a GTR completed in Adelaide on 18/9/72 and exported the same month. Engine numbers don't appear for exported cars on the disc but the original number would be around JL210xxx to JL218xxx. The original colour is Chateau Mauve Metallic and the trim (I am guessing that it is 41-Y not 4L Y) is Antique Saddle with black and white Houndstooth inserts.

Do you have the Chassis Number that should be stamped on the inner passenger side guard?

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#755 _Skapinad_

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:23 AM

http://www.trademe.c...n-536822511.htm

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

Hi there, it is: ALJ12560 A Cheers
posted by: 04oldsmobile (1100 ) 2:25 pm, Wed 28 Nov

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

Hi Skap

Hmm - I'd like it better if it were ALJ12860A - maybe he misread it?
I have 3 others on my database completed around the same time and they are all ALJ128xxA

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:16 PM

Hi Skap

Hmm - I'd like it better if it were ALJ12860A - maybe he misread it?
I have 3 others on my database completed around the same time and they are all ALJ128xxA

Cheers

Bazza

Why we're on the topic of NZ cars is there anyway (no matter how hard) it can be made road legal in Aussie if it doesn't have a ADR tag?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

In qld it doesnt matter, all ya need is the body number.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

Hi All,

I have recently sold my my mechanical workshop after 25 years at it and I now have my eyes on a GTR XU1 and are looking for some help with verification.

Firstly apologies to the owner who is probably a member.

Details are:

VIN 8D11PCL240926J
Chassis LJ23223A
Eng No JP338062

Any help would be appreciated

Brian

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#761 _oz772_

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Try this thread

http://www.gmh-toran...xu-up-for-sale/

Looks very nice

Edited by oz772, 08 December 2012 - 07:22 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

Hi,

Thanks for the info, all the numbers stack up from the VIN cd.

I guess I need to go take a look

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#763 _eddoGTR72_

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

Hi everyone.
I would love to find out more about my 72 LJ GTR. It is missing the Paint & trim code tag but i can supply the following if anyone can help me know any more about the car such as original colour, trim etc.

Any feedback appreciated!

Production date = 10/4/72
Series = LJ
Model = 82911 ( 82911JL199308 is on I.D TAG )
Production serial no. = 199308
Body no. = ALJ 03533A ( Adelaide Built )
Trans serial no. = 0358650 ( I think? )
Engine no. = Not listed ( would love to know )
Seller Code = 000

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#764 _eddoGTR72_

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

Hi all, new to the site and hoping someone can help me find out more about my 72 LJ.

Production date = 10/4/72
Series = LJ
Model = 82911 ( 82911JL199308 is on I.D TAG )
Production serial no. = 199308
Body no. = ALJ 03533A ( Adelaide Built )
Trans serial no. = 0358650 ( I think? )
Engine no. = Not listed ( would love to know )
Seller Code = 000

I am interested in knowing original colour, Trim etc as this tag is missing. Any help would be much appreciated!

Luke

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#765 _Richie_Sebring_

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:09 PM

gidday, I'd also like to know if my 1970 LC is a genuine GTR

Seems to be missing the small left hand radiator support tag assuming they all had one, the right hand tag has the magic 82911 number and the original body color (11429 sebring) can still be seen on untouched parts of the car but from what i read sebring was only a 1969 color? firewall tag says 4/70? I dont think i will ever sell but it would be nice to know for sure...and a buzz to know where it was originaly sold.

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drivers side front guard had a fake flute at the time of my purchase which may explain the missing tag? the engine bay stamp matches the firewall body number (LC08999B) any help appreciated,

thanks in advance.
Richie

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

Some early lc gtr only had two tags as far as i know

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:36 PM

Apparently from January 1970 all LC Torana gained the Compliance plate containing the build date, applicable ADR's and the Chassis number.
Up till then only two ID tags were required, the long skinny VIN tag and the Body ID plate.
4/70 build will have originally had 3 tags.

The Compliance plate tells us your GTR is a Brisbane build and the Body ID plate is also for a Brisabne car.
Without the VIN number it will be hard to confirm more about your GTR.

Bazza should be able to tell you if your body number and chassis number accord build date wise but other than that ...........

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:06 AM

gidday, I'd also like to know if my 1970 LC is a genuine GTR

Seems to be missing the small left hand radiator support tag assuming they all had one, the right hand tag has the magic 82911 number and the original body color (11429 sebring) can still be seen on untouched parts of the car but from what i read sebring was only a 1969 color? firewall tag says 4/70? I dont think i will ever sell but it would be nice to know for sure...and a buzz to know where it was originaly sold.

IMG_7511.jpg 95.47K 4 downloads IMG_7513.jpg 136.2K 2 downloads

drivers side front guard had a fake flute at the time of my purchase which may explain the missing tag? the engine bay stamp matches the firewall body number (LC08999B) any help appreciated,

thanks in advance.
Richie

that second tags has pop rivets so that tell you that has been removed before at one stage

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:13 AM

Hi ichie_Sebring,
As it has been said before,
Being a Brisbane Build - the ADR tag should have 4 to 6 numbers on the back in black texta which the numbers are the last numbers of your VIN number. Dave I

p.s. it was put there to make sure they put the right VIN number with the right ADR tag.

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#770 _Richie_Sebring_

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:07 AM

thanks heaps, I had a feeling that little skinny tag was going to be important. the second tag was rerevited after front end repairs i paid for in the late ninties (maybe not the first time?)...all the trim was there (besides that one flute) color matches the complience and is definetly the original paint (in places), i wont love it any more or less either way but i think i will keep telling everyone i own a GTR and leave it at that lol. thanks again

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#771 _oz772_

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:25 AM

Hi ichie_Sebring,
As it has been said before,
Being a Brisbane Build - the ADR tag should have 4 to 6 numbers on the back in black texta which the numbers are the last numbers of your VIN number. Dave I

p.s. it was put there to make sure they put the right VIN number with the right ADR tag.

That info is correct for Adelaide cars. The numbers on a Brisbane ADR tag are the last four digits of the body number on the trim tag. In this case, '3655'. It was written in a red wax pen.

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#772 _LONA-CK_

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:27 AM

hi richie, if that is the ADR tag for this car and it matches the inner guard number and that number is not welded in you dont have a gtr sorry mate.

cheers gong

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:54 AM

The numbers on a Brisbane ADR tag are the last four digits of the body number on the trim tag. In this case, '3655'.

Body numbers aligning with the VIN numbers didn't occur until later in 1973.

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#774 Bazza

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:04 AM

Hi Richie_Sebring

The Chassis Number and Body Number are fine for a late April '70, Sydney built GTR. The actual identity of the car cannot be determined without the missing VIN tag.

Cheers

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#775 _Richie_Sebring_

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

cheers,
now im less certain then ever, ummm, the chassis number matches the ADR tag and both seem original parts of the car......stamp ends in a B, does that not mean Brisbane Bazza? I wont to believe you more than Gong..i fear Gong knows but some things till on my mind: was sebring an option on two door models other then GTR/XU1 and should it be on an early 1970 model? seems it was definetely the original paint (the quater stripes were there before i painted it) passenger side flute certainly looks like part of the original car. is there nothing i can reference with the chassis stamp? If not then i guesss there is no point in forking out for that CD? No one can tell me its not a torana and that will always be good enough for me anyhow. might mean i relax about modifications if anything.