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[Bazza]

Hi Rick

Correct - "B" denotes Brisbane. The Sydney plant assembled LC Toranas from major components manufactured in Brisbane until the end of July 1970. Similarly, the Melbourne plant used Adelaide components, hence Melbourne assembled vehicles have Chassis and Body Numbers that are suffixed with an "A".

Sebring Orange was still readily available until the 1970 colours were introduced in July 1970.

Your Body Identification tag is demonstrably Sydney in origin and accords datewise with the Chassis Number. If your car has the usual "GTR" identifiers, I believe that you can be reasonably certain that you have a GTR.

There is only one "B" suffixed Chassis Number sequence and that includes all models in the series. Nothing can be gained from the Chassis Number other than to provide an approximate build date.

I would be interested to know whether there is anything on the back of your ADR tag. I don't know whether Sydney wrote or scribed anything thereon as did Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane.

Cheers

Bazza

[S pack]

Yep, that is correct.

As mentioned, Brisbane cars had the last four numbers of the body number on the trim tag written on the back of the ADR tag. Unfortunately, with a Brisbane car, the numbers written on the back of the ADR tag do not help you trying to work out the VIN. Adelaide tags were different.

Sorry mate, I should have read your post properly. Thought you meant Brisbane LC's had the last four digits of the VIN written on the back of the Compliance plate and these numbers also aligned with the body number, but you had already worked out my confusion hadn't you.

Cheers
Dave

[Bazza]

Hi

ADR 20 relating to safety rims occurred on 1/7/70 .

Cheers

Bazza

[xu2308]

Hi all, new to the site and hoping someone can help me find out more about my 72 LJ.

Production date = 10/4/72
Series = LJ
Model = 82911 ( 82911JL199308 is on I.D TAG )
Production serial no. = 199308
Body no. = ALJ 03533A ( Adelaide Built )
Trans serial no. = 0358650 ( I think? )
Engine no. = Not listed ( would love to know )
Seller Code = 000

I am interested in knowing original colour, Trim etc as this tag is missing. Any help would be much appreciated!

Luke

Hi, your LJ GTR is a OOO M Car, owned by GMH Port Melbourne, might be a GMH Press Car or inhouse GMH Engineering car etc,to find its original colour you need to say take out the rear seat etc and parcel shelf cover and look, and maybe sand down and then you will know,got some pics, as i would love to see your 000 M GTR

[Bazza]

Hi Peter

That VIN belongs to a very early Adelaide built GTR. It was completed on 30th Sept 1969 and sold during Nov by United Motors P/L. Franklin St, Adelaide.

The Body Number 15-A is consistent with the build date.

The Chassis Number can be found under the bonnet, stamped horizontally on the inner guard on the passenger side near the cross-member mounting point.

Cheers

Bazza

[Bazza]

Hi Peter

The Chassis Number will not match any other number on a 1969 vehicle. Prior to 1/1/70, no ADR compliance plate was required. After that date however, the Chassis Number appeared twice - on the ADR plate and stamped on the inner guard. When you provide the Chassis Number, I can say to a high degree of certainty whether or not it matches timewise with the VIN and Body Number.

Holden did not record what VIN went with what Body Number and with what Chassis Number, so the best that we can do is compare a given set of numbers with a database of known good sets of numbers.

As mentioned, tags are only half the story. It is well known that genuine GTR tags have been fitted to "S" model bodies so it is imperative that all the "GTR" features appear on a car purported to be genuine. From this point of view someone that has a good understanding of these features, and the knowledge to spot the few features that can't be convincingly faked, should take a look at the car.

Cheers

Bazza