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[S pack]

Olly, Z 2 = Zone 2  NSW.

 

Dealer 029 John.A.Gilbert, Camperdown NSW

Edited by S pack, 18 August 2014 - 10:37 AM.

[Bazza]

Hi Blacky

 

82911CL156472 relates to a GTR completed in Adelaide on 20/7/70 and sold by Atwood Motors P/L Stirling St Perth WA during Sept '70. There is no engine number recorded but the original would have been in the 2600S187xxx to 2600S188xxx range. The original colour was Kashmir White and it had plain black vinyl trim.

 

The LC GTR came out with a warm 161 (2600) engine, two piece cast iron headers and a dual barrel carburettor (Stromberg WW11).

 

Cheers

 

Bazza

Edited by Bazza, 20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM.

[Bazza]

Hi

 

The "CD" prefix engine and the "8B69" points towards the car being a 4 door S model with a 2850 (173) engine.

 

Cheers

 

Bazza

[Bazza]

that is a bit odd... nathan indicated it may be a GTR in another post... I assumed it would be a 2 Door.

 

Extraneous tag/s?

[Bazza]

Hi Nathan

 

We can check the VIN (that appears on the long thin tag) and confirm the model and build details then compare it with what other details that you have. Being an export car, the chances are that there will be no ADR tag, but it should still have a "Body Identification" plate that will display the model, Body Number, paint and trim details. There should also be a stamped impression of the Chassis Number on the inner guard on the passenger side where the front cross member bolts up.

 

From what you have posted above ie. Engine number CD388985 (not a GTR engine) and 8B69DCZ756970C it doesn't look like a GTR unless these details are incorrect.

 

We can determine more when you provide the correct info. If you don't want to make it public, you can PM me direct.

 

Cheers

 

Bazza

[Bazza]

Hi Nathan

 

I have looked on Carjam and have confirmed the numbers:

 

7A889030700055688 is a number that NZ authorities call the VIN (it is not a VIN issued by GMH)

 

CD388985 is the engine number for a 2850cc (173ci) (This is not a GTR engine. GTR engines have the prefix JL and are 3300cc (202ci)

 

8B69DCZ756970C appears to be the VIN issued by GMH. The first part 8B69DC makes sense but the rest of it does not.

 

The 8B69DC means 8 (Holden) B (Luxury level S Model) 69 (4 door) D (Engine type 2580cc 173ci) C (made between Sept 1972 and Aug 1973)

 

It the GMH VIN tag was from a GTR, the prefix of the VIN would be 8D11L meaning Holden GTR 2 door JL engine.

 

No Toranas were built in NZ but there were many imported.

 

If the car that you are interested in is a 2 door - then it appears that it has been fitted with a 4 door GMH VIN tag and an incorrect engine.

 

The car may be a GTR or an S Model 2 door.

 

Until you have access to pictures, it cannot be ascertained whether it is a GTR or S Model

 

Cheers

 

Bazza

[S pack]

Looking like it's an S model to me from those few pics.

[Ice]

Looking like it's an S model to me from those few pics.

Yep S body no chrome strips on the tops of doors either ok they could have been removed but why would you

Love the hotwires and eagers

Just had another look at the tops of the doors looks like it did have pins for the strips

[xu2308]

If u can get a 2 Door LJ cheap, then buy it but don't buy it if stolen

Edited by xu2308, 04 September 2014 - 10:38 AM.

[Bazza]

I need to get there and search for the stamped chassis number but here's what I know so far after asking mate lots of questions

The motor was a 202 & M20 4spd. It has the big XU1 brake booster & XU1 front suspension too. (Reinforced lower arms)

 

Hi

 

The Chassis Number won't tell you what model it is, but it will tell you an approximate build date and factory. You need to see if the car has the Body Identification plate - it is fitted on the passenger side on the radiator support panel. You also need to check whether there are 1 or 2 spare wheel brackets on the boot floor near the spare wheel well.

 

Cheers

 

Bazza