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#1476 Bazza

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

Mark

 

Sorry to say that that Chassis Number doesn't go with that VIN - they are about 12 months apart. Probably the reason why the ADR tag is missing.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 01:51 PM

Thanks Bazza, that is disappointing.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 02:06 PM

Thanks Bazza, that is disappointing.

My guess it that 2 legitimate GTR tags have been fitted to an earlier S Model. The ADR tag has been discarded because the 2 Chassis Numbers would not match. A quick check that you might like to undertake is to examine the boot near the spare wheel well and check the number and type of spare wheel brackets. A genuine GTR would only have the smaller of the 2 brackets.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 03:15 PM

Thanks Bazza, Thanks for your detailed information. I have taken a photo of my boot.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 03:57 PM

The large bracket looks to have been removed when the car boot was tubbed. The pic below is what a GTR or XU-1 boot is supposed to look like. Does it have one of these throttle brackets under the bonnet on the firewall?

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 04:11 PM

There is a bracket like that on the fire wall.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 04:38 PM

Ok  If that bracket is attached with factory spot welds it is probably legit. The early Chassis Number is a bit of a mystery though. Perhaps it has been repaired with parts from an earlier car? Go back to post #1469 and comment on those issues. In addition - what is the Body Number on the Body Identification tag? The colour Mediterranean Blue Metallic suggests that it is from a post July 1970 car so that fits with the 25/1/71 VIN.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 05:42 PM

OK the Body Number is: 2659-A. Is that any help? 



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:29 PM

Mark, has your GTR got the compression bump stop above the upper control arm like the Torana in this pic.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:32 PM

Sorry Dave,  can't see a picture attached. There has been some major pilfering from this car no disc calipers shocks and I am sure more.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:35 PM

Sorry Dave,  can't see a picture attached. There has been some major pilfering from this car no disc calipers shocks and I am sure more.

Refresh your page and you should see it.

 

Also, are there any signs that there once was a compliance plate affixed on the panel near the wiper motor?


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:43 PM

OK the Body Number is: 2659-A. Is that any help? 

 

Mark - have another very close look at the stamped Chassis Number.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:48 PM

There are no signs that a plate has been fixed to that area near the wiper motor. This is a photo of the front.   

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:51 PM

Ok then you have a late 1969 or early 1970 Torana. As Bazza has already confirmed the ID tags and body shell are about 12 months apart.

Oh and the upper control arm on your car is not the correct type for that bump stop configuration.

Actually the whole front crossmember is from a later car.


Edited by S pack, 25 March 2017 - 06:54 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:57 PM

I suppose I should ask if the same bump stop exists on the drivers side rail.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:05 PM

I have taken  a picture of the chassis number. I read it as LC07339A.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:29 PM

Mark - This car was sold on eBay during June 2010. At that time the Chassis Number was given as LC23381A which fits with the VIN 82911CL167595 and Body Number 02659-A. It would appear that the car was rebodied in the intervening years. Check under the dash for evidence of the ADR tag rivet holes having been filled in, and check the "C" pillar for evidence of the "S" badge holes having been filled.

 

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:37 PM

Cool I will do that, I am happy to have a 2 door anything anyway.

 

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 12:58 PM

Hi all
Not sure if this is right place to post...
I have just put a deposit on a LC gtr (subject to various things) and was wanting to ensure it measured up.
I should have all the numbers today to run, but was wondering what the key things I should look out for on the final inspection?
I have had my share of old holdens but this my first Torana so am feeling a bit clueless!
The vehicle is in the GC/Brisbane area so even if there were any classic car vehicle inspectors anyone knew of in the area that would know what they were looking for?
Thanks guys

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:13 PM

Apparently a '70 GTR on Trademe:

82911CL17926(6?)

 

LC82911

23595B

1193 40X

567 11425

 

someone on the Q&A has mentioned that in 2011 the car had a Sydney VIN, and now it has an Adelaide one....



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 08:20 PM

sorry to be a pain guys

i got the gtr xu1 info CD and still cant find the above Vin numbers mentioned above could some one point me in the right direction IE page number 

thanks in advance



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:34 PM

sorry to be a pain guys

i got the gtr xu1 info CD and still cant find the above Vin numbers mentioned above could some one point me in the right direction IE page number 

thanks in advance

 

Hi

 

I don't know what format you have the data in, but it appears on File 4 page 709. I don't believe that that VIN tag belongs on that car so looking it up is moot.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:52 PM

Thanks for that bazza
I'm not a 100% sure what format it is in not very tech savvy will get the miss to work it out for me
Can I ask why you think the vin doesn't belong on this car?


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 11:07 PM

sorry Bazza think we are talking about the wrong Vin the one im looking for is

 

vin 82911lj215186



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 11:18 PM

Where is that "above"?







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