GTR and XU1 verification thread
#1751
Posted 06 May 2020 - 08:53 PM
#1752
Posted 07 May 2020 - 12:21 AM
yel327
Point taken. It appears that I misinterpreted what was said in the article 'By The Numbers" all those years ago and thought nothing more of it. I am aware of L1 to L5. L6 to L9, J1 to J9, H1 to H4 and H5 to H9 so there's no need to elaborate on that. I am guessing that the sequence of alpha characters followed by numeric characters is called the 'Production Sequence Number (PSN) for a reason. By definition it has something to do with the number of vehicles produced and, yes, I know that it represents a mix of all vehicles (not just Toranas). I would love to know the origin of the PSN format as it appears above and leaving out the "L1", what the remaining digits represent.
Thanks
Bazza
#1753
Posted 07 May 2020 - 07:28 AM
It also doesn’t include semi-completed vehicles like for example complete LC exported to Pagewood to have the mechanicals installed and be finished, or all the painted and hard trimmed cab-chassis or van bodies from Elizabeth. These got at least an Elizabeth body plate and in some cases an Elizabeth chassis number and ADR plate but the assembly plant’s VIN plate (and hence PSN). From a certain date these got the PSN on the body plate from the body plant location. Nor does it include stuff like the complete cars built but never intended to be “a car” like the Torana and Commodore race cars.
The other quirk is when it was assigned. Dandenong and Acacia Ridge appear to have assigned it when the car went into the schedule. Pagewood assigned it right at the end of the assembly plant, so really at Pagewood it gave you a cumulative total of sorts but at Dandenong a car with PSN 123456 could actually be 1000’s off any total as it may have been fast tracked and completed prior to many in the schedule.
There are other quirks too like Woodville and the truck assembly plants that used the same PSN as the same State assembly plants.
Edited by yel327, 07 May 2020 - 07:37 AM.
#1754 _haines_
Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:55 PM
ok should be lc242xxa
body no 27xxa
hope that helps
cheers
#1755
Posted 09 May 2020 - 07:34 AM
The other quirk is when it was assigned. Dandenong and Acacia Ridge appear to have assigned it when the car went into the schedule. Pagewood assigned it right at the end of the assembly plant, so really at Pagewood it gave you a cumulative total of sorts but at Dandenong a car with PSN 123456 could actually be 1000’s off any total as it may have been fast tracked and completed prior to many in the schedule.
Byron. I think you will find Elizabeth assigned the PSN when the vehicle was put into the schedule and Acacia Ridge, like Pagewood, assigned their PSN's at the end of the assembly line.
#1756
Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:07 AM
#1757
Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:44 AM
#1758
Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:21 AM
If that was the case for Elizabeth then what I stated about Dandenong in that last sentence applies to Elizabeth as well.
Have a look at an early 1970's Elizabeth Broadcast sheet. The PSN was assigned before or when the Broadcast sheet was produced. At a point in time in early 1973? the Body number was also assigned along with the PSN on the Broadcast sheet. Dandenong I can't comment on.
#1759
Posted 09 May 2020 - 10:35 AM
#1760 _haines_
Posted 09 May 2020 - 06:56 PM
Byron. I think you will find Elizabeth assigned the PSN when the vehicle was put into the schedule and Acacia Ridge, like Pagewood, assigned their PSN's at the end of the assembly line.
S Pack
is your Car the 73 LJ 4 door a Brisbane car or Adel car ?
cheers
#1761
Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:58 PM
S Pack
is your Car the 73 LJ 4 door a Brisbane car or Adel car ?
cheers
FYI my LJ only has 2 doors.
Edited by S pack, 09 May 2020 - 09:00 PM.
#1762 _haines_
Posted 10 May 2020 - 12:12 PM
FYI my LJ only has 2 doors.
S pack all good
so its a 2 door S 73 gold car is it adel or bris car ?
after the change re three holes in rocket cover ? after the 10th month 73 ?
cheers
#1763
Posted 11 May 2020 - 10:19 PM
#1764
Posted 11 May 2020 - 11:12 PM
"Rocket cover" has more appeal but?
#1765
Posted 22 May 2020 - 03:59 PM
Hi Guys,
Just wondering what S/DLR 000 and Z4 means on the vehicle master listing?
Cheers
Darren
#1766
Posted 22 May 2020 - 04:18 PM
000 means there is no dealer code recorded for the car, so it was either used internal, not sold when the report was printed or an export. The Zone is the zone office that processed the order of the car. They have letters or numbers depending upon whether they were located or what their purpose was. I can't remember them all.
#1767
Posted 17 August 2020 - 12:31 PM
#1768 _DC280_
Posted 04 September 2020 - 03:10 PM
Hi All
Have a 2 x Door LC which shows the sign of possibly being a GTR.
2 x important plates are missing, only the ADR plate which matches the number stamped in the guard remains.
Believe also that the motor is the original.
So, here you go with what I have:
Chassis - ALC37890B
8/71 build
Engine number CF10638 - 173
Head number 2811929
Carby manifold has a 7434446-P number on it also.
NSW reg'd car.
Has had a respray some time back but original colour under the carpet looks to be orange.
Visually has the GTR badges on the rear quarters & boot. Engine bay has a triangular bracket on the firewall. The single spare wheel retaining bracket in the boot appears to have been ground off.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Cheers
Mike
#1769
Posted 05 September 2020 - 08:08 AM
Mike, I don't believe eng # F10638 is original to your car. 173S Engine numbers around that number can be found in 11th month Elizabeth built GTR's so it is highly likely your engine came from an Elizabeth car that has no engine number recorded in the Vehicle Master Listing.
I have searched both the Acacia Ridge and Elizabeth records and did not find CF10638 but I may have missed it.
Edited by S pack, 05 September 2020 - 08:09 AM.
#1770 _DC280_
Posted 07 September 2020 - 09:50 AM
Appreciate the assistance.
I looked at it as just a 2 door torrie not having the ID tags so nothing lost.
Cheers
#1771
Posted 07 September 2020 - 03:21 PM
PM sent
#1772 _DC280_
Posted 08 September 2020 - 09:36 PM
Hi All
Having a better look at the torrie this week.
Anything specific I should be looking for (in addition to what I mentioned above).
I know some of the info is confidential so PM if you can assist.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers
#1773
Posted 07 January 2021 - 03:24 PM
#1774
Posted 07 January 2021 - 04:29 PM
Remove the compliance plate and see what the numbers are scratched into the reverse side. Should be the last 4 digits of the PSN.Just chasing info for a workmate who owns a lc 2 door he suspects is a gtr, it’s missing the 2 tags from the radiator support panel. The chassis number matches the tag on firewall. He understands it essentially is just a 2 door torana but would like to find out anything about it if possible form the chassis number? LC 24574A, Cheers for any info found.
The cars identity should be able to be revealed from those 4 numbers.
Edited by S pack, 07 January 2021 - 04:31 PM.
#1775
Posted 07 January 2021 - 06:11 PM
Hi Dave, he has taken the tag off and it has 9491 on the back, it’s tagged as a 2/71 build.Remove the compliance plate and see what the numbers are scratched into the reverse side. Should be the last 4 digits of the PSN.
The cars identity should be able to be revealed from those 4 numbers.
Cheers again.
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