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[Shiney005]

I made the decision over a year ago to buy a VF Commodore before they disappear altogether. My brother in law works at a dealer and rang to let me know that if I wanted to order a new SSV Redline, it has to be done this week. So for $63,000 I can get a manual with $1200 bucks worth of options in "Son of a gun Grey".

 

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  I told him I would sleep on it and let him know tomorrow. Then I started to have a look at what was in other car yards, and now I am a bit torn as I could get a 2013 GTS with 37,000 kays on the clock for $67,992 https://www.carsales...-14625330/?Cr=4

 

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  Or I could save myself near ten grand and get a 2015 Clubbie with 6,000 kays on the clock for $55,000, but I'm not sure what extras the 2017 VF gets over the 2015 VF.  https://www.carsguid...c515c6c362#pos6  

 

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   I would love a GTS, but it's white and 4 years old. Between myself and the missus, we will rack up 25,000 country kays a year, and I don't know how reliable the supercharger would be once it gets up around 200,000 kays. But it does have Magnetic Ride Control which is a big plus in my book. The Clubsport is cheaper, and the badges alone will probably give it better resale (way) down the track. Or do I keep trundling around in the trusty 360,000 kay old 2006 100 series Landcruiser that I despise so much every time I want to pass a roadtrain? Seventy grand is a shipload of money. I'm not expecting anyone to make up my mind for me, but anyone with experience in any of these cars is welcome to offer bouquets or brickbats.

[Ice]

I bought a brand new 2016 VF SS ute Laurie reasons being
a- I intend to keep this for a very long time
b- got 5 year warranty
c- there never going to make another ute
d- 6.2 litre 415 Hp factory
e- Last of the big bore V8s
oh i get a tax break to ✌️


They are great cars with more features id be buying the Grey Redline SSV
thats a good price is that BGs yard
Have i convinced you yet

[Shiney005]

I know that Brian Gardiner's have changed, but the experience I got from that place in the mid 1990s put me off for life. The brother in law is at Bunbury Holden. There are very few allocations left in WA for the Redlines, and most of the metro ones are auto. It seems that over east they have pretty much sold all of theirs, and the ones that are left are up around $70,000!

Edited by Shiney005, 22 June 2017 - 02:43 AM.

[Bigfella237]

In 30 years time, which will be more coveted, a slightly older GTS, or one of the very last of the "real" (IE not made by Kia) Commodores? Would this equate to the difference between an A9X hatch, or one of the very last 1978 L31 LX SS hatches?

 

But then you have to consider the short term, has the GTS had a hard life or was it owned by a poser?

 

So short term, I'd go for the new Redline, but long term, I'd go for the GTS (not helping much am I).

 

I guess it depends on your usage too, if you're gonna use it as a daily driver plus touring holidays etc., which means parking it in shopping centres and having high kms on it in the future, then I'd probably go for the new Redline, if it's gonna be garaged 95% of the time and only driven on Sundays, then I'd go for the GTS?

 

But that's just me (kinda glad I'm not in a position to choose myself)!

[76lxhatch]

^ Pretty much, except I wouldn't be concerned about driving the GTS

If its just a car then buy a new one.

The GTS will hold more value and enjoyment for much longer.

Too many Clubsports, they're no more interesting than an SS.

[RallyRed]

amazing co-incidence Shiney.,

 

We are just going through this with one of our sons. , his budget may be a  little smaller, but same same....

 

He/we/me have looked at -  

 

2014 SSV Redlines , cheaper, but only get the 6.0l motor., some have very low kms, but  then they want 40k +

2015 SSV Redlines, get the 6.2l, but the price goes up into mid/high 40ks.....which then....puts you 8-10k away from a similar -

2015 Clubsport. He really likes the body kit on the HSVs, and reckons the resale must be better ( even though as 76lxhatch said, there are a million of them around). Also reckons the gap $ SSV Redline to HSV seems small? Also, he would prob. leave the HSV alone, whereas he would lower the SSV and swap the wheels, thus spending HSV money anyway. The FE3 on the SSV-R would be put in the bin, so why pay for it?.

....as for GTS, they are out of his league $ wise.

 

I have noticed in some of the dealers we have been sniffing around in, the prices of brand NEW SS, SSV -R, and HSVs seem to be getting dearer by the week!!

 

As to your original question....hmm.....reckon I'd go for the new SSV Redline. 

In years to come, the rivet counters will be saying ,""yep....one of the last ones built, last 2 months of production before Holden closed forever , 1 of xx in this colour...etc  etc"". Gotta balance that agains the driving pleasure of the LSA....bloody hell...its a hard one!!!

 

Regardless, like Gino, I bought a SS Ute, 6.2l........love it!......you cant go wrong with either of your choices mate.....better hurry!!

[Shiney005]

In 30 years time, which will be more coveted, a slightly older GTS, or one of the very last of the "real" (IE not made by Kia) Commodores? Would this equate to the difference between an A9X hatch, or one of the very last 1978 L31 LX SS hatches?

I have taken the GTS off the list. If it was any other colour than white or black I reckon I would go for it, but all white cars look like taxis to me.

 

Too many Clubsports, they're no more interesting than an SS.

I do wonder just how many LS3 Redlines will be built. The number may be not much more than the Clubsport.

 

Also reckons the gap $ SSV Redline to HSV seems small? Also, he would prob. leave the HSV alone, whereas he would lower the SSV and swap the wheels, thus spending HSV money anyway. The FE3 on the SSV-R would be put in the bin, so why pay for it?.

 

In years to come, the rivet counters will be saying ,""yep....one of the last ones built, last 2 months of production before Holden closed forever , 1 of xx in this colour...etc  etc"". Gotta balance that agains the driving pleasure of the LSA....bloody hell...its a hard one!!!

The wheels issue is another thing I have to consider. I don't like black rims. Could always paint them I suppose.

The "Son of a gun" colour is quite rare with only "Spitfire Green" being ordered less. But I don't know if I could handle that one.

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The other thing is that the Clubsport that I am looking at doesn't have the LSA. It is the same LS3 as the new Redline with 30 more kilowatts courtesy of a set of extractors.

 

Leaning towards new Redline, but going to Perth today to look at Clubsport. 

[Ice]

Go brand new Laurie that price for the SSV is a good price BGs want $68000 for the same car ✌️

[r2160]

I recently looked at an SSV Redline (within the last 12 weeks). I was being quoted $52k, so $63 sounds very expensive.

 

I ended up buying an older GTS as its just a toy rather than regular run around.

 

cheers

[Redslur]

Redline for me. The magna-ride suspension costs a mint to replace and expect that at around 100,000ks. Same with the brembo brakes. Hugely expensive to replace. For the k's you are going to be using it for, the SS is a better option in my mind.

[Shiney005]

I recently looked at an SSV Redline (within the last 12 weeks). I was being quoted $52k, so $63 sounds very expensive.

 

I ended up buying an older GTS as its just a toy rather than regular run around.

 

cheers

The price of the car is $53,990. The rest is Government charges and $1990 for dealer delivery. Reading the Commodore forum last night it seems that some dealers are charging up to ten grand for delivery.

 

Redline for me. The magna-ride suspension costs a mint to replace and expect that at around 100,000ks. Same with the brembo brakes. Hugely expensive to replace. For the k's you are going to be using it for, the SS is a better option in my mind.

VF2 Redline has Brembos as well.

I have put off going to look at the Clubsport until tomorrow. Another option I have found is a 2016 LSA Clubbie, but at $72,000 it would be stretching my relationship with the bank manager.

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[lx308]

The price of the car is $53,990. The rest is Government charges and $1990 for dealer delivery. Reading the Commodore forum last night it seems that some dealers are charging up to ten grand for delivery.

$10k for delivery... And the dealers wonder why people have low opinions of them. Even $1,990 is a frOcking rip off.

Buy the new 1 Laurie, & a dual cab something for when the gravel roads are mud

[Shiney005]

Ok Ok frock it. I'll ring him now and order it.

[IMORAL]

Grey SS. frOck the second hand ones.

[Shiney005]

Cheque is in the mail  Haven't got a delivery date yet.

Edited by Shiney005, 22 June 2017 - 03:06 PM.

[lx308]

10k is not just dealer delivery.
 
Shiney have you looked at the motorsports or directors? SOAG looks incredible in the flesh especially in the sun.

I wouldn't have thought so either. Who would pay that?

I thought the Motorsports had sold out?

[r2160]

The dealer told me it was drive away . . .

[TerrA LX]

I bought a brand new 2016 VF SS ute Laurie reasons being
a- I intend to keep this for a very long time as I'm not rebuilding the Sandman now
b- got 5 year warranty, can't be bothered doing my own work
c- there never going to make another ute
d- 6.2 litre 415 Hp factory
e- Last of the big bore V8s
oh i get a tax break to ✌️


 

[Ice]

Dick ^^^^^

[Ice]

I bought a brand new 2016 VF SS ute Laurie reasons being
a- I intend to keep this for a very long time
b- got 5 year warranty
c- there never going to make another ute
d- 6.2 litre 415 Hp factory
e- Last of the big bore V8s
oh i get a tax break to ✌️
 

[Shiney005]

10k is not just dealer delivery.

 

Shiney have you looked at the motorsports or directors? SOAG looks incredible in the flesh especially in the sun.

10k is just delivery when all the other yards in your area have already used up their allocations and demand is still strong.

The Directors, Motorsports, and Magnums all sold out in 8 days. There is one Motorsport on Carsales at the moment for $98,000. 

Edited by Shiney005, 22 June 2017 - 05:55 PM.

[rexy]

I have a series 1 VF R8 club sport and it's fantastic. I am really going to miss it when it eventually goes.

[Shiney005]

I know which one I would rather let my missus drive 50 kays to work through roo infested bush every day!

It looks like mine is going to be an October build. And the production line stops on the 20th.