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#1 _Nate355_

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 10:29 AM

There is an LJ 2door advertised for sale as a GTR but the guy won’t send me pics of the tags to verify. Can anyone help me with the limited information i have to get a better idea of it being genuine?
Year - 1/1973
Tag/Body/Chassis Numbers - Trying to verify
Engine Number - Trying to verify

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 10:36 AM

You need tags details without them pretty much cant tell

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 10:54 AM

Some photos of the ad, i doubt it will help, but the seller is not being forthcoming with photos of tags. 

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 11:43 AM

his got something to hide



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:56 PM

If you can't get info on the tags privately,I'd be doubtful on it being an original GTR .

Check before the cheque.So realistically your buying a two door Torana ,Looks like a nice car.

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 01:16 PM

That car appears to be nice, 50k for a nice 2 door is prob. not bad these days.

 

If it's a GTR, even better. 

 

As above, if it's a GTR you are after, then tags and inspection are an absolute must. 

 

Good luck with it.



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 01:37 PM

Sounds like your typical chancer, I’ve met lots of them over the years!

 

This is the sort of car that you need to go and look at very carefully. The recent bodywork could be hiding all sorts of war crimes.

Ive found some gems and found some dogs with similar stories.

 

For that price it would want to be a very very good non GTR.

 

Bet you it’s still “all over Facebook “ and still for sale in a fortnight.



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 02:08 PM

never saw it on fakebook



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 02:22 PM

There is an LJ 2door advertised for sale as a GTR but the guy won’t send me pics of the tags to verify. Can anyone help me with the limited information i have to get a better idea of it being genuine?
Year - 1/1973
Tag/Body/Chassis Numbers - Trying to verify
Engine Number - Trying to verify

Rego number in the pics might give you some info if you check it on the RMS site.

 

Cheers,

 

Liz :) 



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 02:42 PM

Drives like a new car what an absolute wanker

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 03:02 PM

If it is a 1/73 build Torana the chassis number will be BLJ18022B. Approx completion date for this chassis number would be around the 17th January.

Not many GTR built at Acacia Ridge in January 1973. Count them on one hand. Closest GTR completed  was on the 23/01/1973.



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 03:16 PM

If you had GTR tags wouldn't you be promoting them at the top of the features list as this would be the most desirable feature?



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Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:22 PM

Hi

 

Cool yer jets folks - it's a March '73. One of the first of the '73 colour options and 50 series trim.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:44 PM

Thanks for all the advice & help :)
The chassis i found out through NSW Transport matches a BLJXXX22B so it seems to be on the money. I just need to get over there with $$$ & check it over before the money leaves my hands.
The reason he wouldn’t send pics of the tags was due to ppl flogging them off in scam gumtree ads, as he has a Monaro & other collectable cars in the shed that were unregistered.
Thanks again, the help’s much appreciated!

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 06:32 PM

same car?

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 06:47 PM

Yes that’s the one Col! I’ve spoken to Steve via messages & Mick on the phone.
Any info on it would be greatly appreciated! Cheers

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 06:57 PM

Hi Nathan, I dont know the owner, or the car. Just searched on Steve's FB, then on GTR.
There's a lot of pics of painting, re wire etc on there. Looks good


think it was 70K back a few years ago......

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 02:49 PM

Hey guys, i finally got some more information AFTER MUCH TEETH PULLING.

Can anyone please help me now that i have the correct VIN number and some further details?

 

 

Identifier number: BLJ32022B
Vehicle type: SMALL PASSENGER VEHICLE
Body type: SEDAN
Colour: BLUE
Registration plate number: BRB35R
Registration expiry: 7/12/2020
Year of manufacture: 1973-03
Make: HOLDEN
Model: TORANA
Engine number: CL929407
State vehicle registered: NSW

Year/Month of compliance: 1973-03
 


Edited by Nate355, 01 June 2020 - 02:52 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2020 - 03:57 PM

BLJ32022B is not the VIN number. It is the chassis number.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 03:57 PM

Engine number is wrong. Will be QL929407 from a HZ around March 1978. If you are going to buy it get that engine number checked rather than the CL one to make sure it’s all OK.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:02 PM

Sorry guys, i jumped the gun and incorrectly stated i had the VIN number... which unfortunately i cannot get as the seller won't send me photos of the VIN (due to dodgy people ripping them off supposedly). He is more than happy to show me all the tags on the car in person, but due to COVID-19 i cannot get there.

These details i got from a PPSR check. The seller specifically stated it is not the original engine as they pulled that out to modifiy a new 202 block, which i am perfectly fine with.

I am more worried, is it a genuine GTR? This is the million $$$ question i guess i am having problems answering without a VIN number.

Unfortunately this is all i've got... and if i can't get there, it will simply be sold to the next buyer in line.

Chassis number: BLJ32022B
Engine number: CL929407



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Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:06 PM

I found my ID plate on gumtree for sale once. So I know where he is coming from.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:08 PM

I don't buy the excuse. Even if he won't send a pic of the plates he could at least tell you the VIN/PSN number so you can check it out to confirm it is what he says it is.



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Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:09 PM

Also all the Qx9294xx numbers I can find are 4.2L engines, even those close to it like 929402-3. Makes me wonder if it isn’t a real number.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:21 PM

Edit - I just found a couple at Acacia Ridge. QL929423, 24, 28, 30, 34, 36, 38, 45 and QM929400. Given there were none recorded at Elizabeth or Pagewood that I could find I’d say pretty much most QL9294xx engines came from Acacia Ridge vehicles, 407 probably did too.

Edited by yel327, 01 June 2020 - 04:24 PM.





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