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Posted 07 October 2020 - 04:00 PM
Posted 07 October 2020 - 04:09 PM
Looks like it would be a good fit in a Goggomobil Dart too.
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Edited by Lazarus, 07 October 2020 - 04:11 PM.
Posted 07 October 2020 - 04:18 PM
All well and good, Until you fit batteries! Then your HZ Sandman is suddenly undriveable as the weight carrying capacity is a meagre 500kg including passengers!
Posted 07 October 2020 - 06:31 PM
All well and good, Until you fit batteries! Then your HZ Sandman is suddenly undriveable as the weight carrying capacity is a meagre 500kg including passengers!
Delete Cooling system, engine, transmission, fuel tank and 80lts of fuel, clutch and plus fluids. Then add n electric motor and batteries in the right spots for a better CG and I think the weight would still be in favor of the battery box. Plus the extra power to weight of the electric motor advantage. I think the electric advantage is way up there. Only thing the electric conversion misses out on is the sound, vibration and the range. Electric is cheaper to run per km. No regular servicing and no fuel tax. Its only a matter of time. Hate to see the ICE engines stopping development and production but the future is going to be interesting. There will be a lot of development in batteries over the next 10 years and probably half the weight and 10 fold in the distance on a single charge. I bet the old engineers in the early 1900s never dreamed of the cars we have today. Bring on the future so long as I can have a bit of fuel every so on so I take out one of my dinosours.
Posted 07 October 2020 - 06:52 PM
Posted 07 October 2020 - 08:11 PM
I think I will keep the BBC in the HQ for now.
Posted 07 October 2020 - 08:16 PM
Posted 07 October 2020 - 10:46 PM
The new Tesla 4680 batteries released last month will make battery packs lighter and range much further for their size.
https://www.theverge...s-day-elon-musk
Posted 07 October 2020 - 10:49 PM
I wish I could unsee this thread.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 09:47 AM
Don't get me wrong I'm a petrol/diesel boy through and through. I only thought 10 years ago I probably wouldn't see the current generation of electric and self driving cars in my life time. Everyone compares every electric car with the Tesla. But many car makers have now overtaken Tesla in performance and range. Just look at the new Porsche, I live on the out skirts north west Sydney in the mountain foot hills, if I did have to recharge my electric car I only have to drive 15-20 minutes to a recharge station. Within a 25km range there are more than 25 charging stations. When I drove to Melbourne two years ago I could have driven from Sydney to Melbourne, stopped 45minutes for lunch and charge the car at one of three Hume hwy charge stations, that's 900km drive for only 45 minutes down time. and cheaper to charge than a happy meal. Same thing going to QLD these days.
There are more charging stations than most are aware. Don't think I will be heading to far west yet. If you live within a 150km radius of a major capital city you don't need to bother with running low on charge. How many times a month do you dive from home more the 600km return i n one go anyway. You would plug the car into your house power point the nigh before to make sure you had full range anyway. At least with batteries you can put them anywhere you like to get a much better C of G. Placing them as most new EV vehicle manufactures do under the floor in the centre I doesn't get much better than that for handling. Bloody Holden have never had a good weight distribution and GC. I reckon the weight saving of a V8 twin system converted to battery weight and power would be enough to power the car for 40-50km.I will never pull the engine out of my Aston Martin and put in a whizzer but next time I decide to update my daily I will consider looking at what EVs are out there. The new Porsche Taycan does look tempting.
Edited by axistr, 08 October 2020 - 09:55 AM.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 10:18 AM
Posted 08 October 2020 - 11:13 AM
This technology has absolutely no appeal to me in the slightest. Old Skool cars should not be fitted with this technology as it wrecks it for me. Leave that stuff for the newer more modern era of car. YUK!!!
Posted 08 October 2020 - 11:20 AM
Edited by yel327, 08 October 2020 - 11:21 AM.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 11:27 AM
A smaller cheaper version in an old Suzuki Sierra would make a great roo shooter. Nice an quiet.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:19 PM
A smaller cheaper version in an old Suzuki Sierra would make a great roo shooter. Nice an quiet.
Ha Ha, I am with you Laurie, sneak up in stealth mode and give them a lead surprise.
I think your missing the point yel327 I have enough solar panels on the roof to supply all my needs and with a battery I could charge both car and battery during the day and finish charging with the solar battery at night. Yes I wouldn't like to travel on a long weekend interstate and line up behind 50 cars to charged. That's when I would take the Ranger. As said I for one will hate to see the end of our current ICE engines. Its taken over 100 years to develop the tech we enjoy now. We need oil for plastics, lubrication and a whole heap of other things, once we burn it all its gone forever. ( its easy to recycle waste oil and plastics) Adding more EVs will help preserve fuel for our dinosaur's so we can enjoy the V8 noise till our generation are all done and dusted.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:52 PM
Posted 08 October 2020 - 04:24 PM
Edited by yel327, 08 October 2020 - 04:30 PM.
Posted 08 October 2020 - 07:58 PM
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Posted 08 October 2020 - 09:10 PM
Posted 09 October 2020 - 07:55 AM
Well you can bet that the local dump won't be taking them for free.
Posted 09 October 2020 - 08:42 AM
The solution's obvious. We just have to find where the frOckers have hidden the blueprints -
https://teslascience.../history/tower/
Posted 09 October 2020 - 08:51 AM
We already have a startup company in Victoria that is recycling and reconditioning lithium batteries now. It wont be to long before we see more and also solar panel recycling. I think the future will have at least four types for transport energy, oil, alcohols, hydrogen, battery, and there is probably a fifth that hasn't been invented yet. The energy source that attracts the most tax in the end will probably be the most common. There is a lot of miss conceptions out there and many jump on the band wagon without doing any thinking of the big picture. I have a 6.5kw 3 phase north facing solar system on my house. On a good day I can produce up to 40kw per day. 55-60% of my power generation goes back into the grid. You wouldn't put a solar system in to only recharge your car, but I put the system on to reduce my power bills which now are next to nothing, but I would also have plenty to keep a daily EV charged without heavily relying on the grid. My solar system paid for it self in just under five years. $1,000.00 per kw installed back eight years ago. I am in the middle of installing an additional 10kw system on the shed. At some time in the future I intend on fitting a battery. Using the guy next door as an example, Wayne has a 15kw inverter with east & west facing panels. The system has 18kw of panels on the shed. He receives a credit of $600.00 per quarter summer and $300.00 on average winter bill credit. this is after he has exported his excess back into the grid. The 10kw system will cost me around $9,000.00 Putting $9,000 in a term deposit atm will net me a whopping $7.20c Spending $9,000 and I will have a return of approximatly $2,000.00 return on my money. Plus i get the benifit of using more of my own energy. I will have enough power to run 2-3 EVs for a total cost of $10k and sill have no power bills and probably sill have power credits every quarter. Its not as hard as you would thing not to rely on our basic electricity grid.
Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:46 AM
Posted 09 October 2020 - 02:39 PM
Where do you connect your clutch pedal and shifter to?
Edited by Heath, 09 October 2020 - 02:39 PM.
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