186 rebuild, Oracle advice
#301
Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:40 AM
I will give the timing a tweak on your advice. I drove the car up the driveway which is when it was often spluttering. Involves a 1:8 grade followed by a 90 degree turn and tight park next to mums Audi. It would stall when I shut the throttle for the last low speed manoeuvre. So I pulled plugs after that. No worries about mid and WOT performance. Hopefully run like a top now. Thanks fellas for your input.
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#302
Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:43 AM
$70! Very hard to get now. At least it isn’t points which are officially obsolete now.
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#303
Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:44 AM
You're the sparkplug whisperer
That sent me backup to the photo for another look
I see now, Clay, there is something funny going on
with those front 3 plugs. Gradually worse from #3
to #1.
Hope it's easy to find whats going on there
#304
Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:47 AM
What the hell are they making dizzy caps out of these days?
Carbon fibre and gold leaf??
Oh thats just for the ROTOR?
#305
Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:51 AM
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#306
Posted 13 April 2022 - 09:53 AM
12.5 litres/100km?
22.5 miles/gallon.
Guess that isnt too bad for an old car.
I could get 26 miles/gallon out of my old 186 powered LC.
When I had the engine worked a bit, the best I could do was 6 miles/gallon.
Not much fun with a 10 gallon tank. lol
Im getting around that on average with my VF SS LS3
My VE SS averaged about the same, but was driven very spiritedly most of the time.
I managed 7.0 litres/100km on a freeway run from Sydney to Newcastle with an average speed of slightly over the speed limit. Bookable speed.
About 40 miles/gallon.
Wonder these days why people worry about fuel consumption with V8s
Thats a stupid price for a rotor button.
But guess they are becoming harder to find.
Might check with a mate to see if he has any old stuff left from when they had a servo.
But think they might have got dumped.
They had lots of stuff for old school cars when they shut shop.
Cheers
Rob
#307
Posted 13 April 2022 - 10:16 AM
Reset the timing to 7. Was running 9degrees. It may even behave on 91 now.
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#308
Posted 13 April 2022 - 03:59 PM
#309
Posted 13 April 2022 - 05:47 PM
At least you can get 6 cylinder ones ,second hand V8 ones $130$70?
What the hell are they making dizzy caps out of these days?
Carbon fibre and gold leaf??Oh thats just for the ROTOR?
If you can find one that is
#310
Posted 13 April 2022 - 07:48 PM
Now I have to watch how much mileage I put
on the dizzy cap
I think I go lie down now
#311
Posted 13 April 2022 - 09:49 PM
A mate had an ex Army HR wagon with a 161 low compression engine.
It got 30 mpg day in day out, no matter how you drove it.
Good old bus that one.
Cheers
Rob
#312
Posted 15 April 2022 - 07:46 AM
#313
Posted 08 August 2022 - 07:22 PM
Can anyone advise me on running this 1/4npt temp gauge sender while retaining idiot light, or too hard? The oil won't be a problem, been there. I think last time I did the temp gauge was a blue head and it had a spare port I used.
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#314
Posted 08 August 2022 - 07:25 PM
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#315
Posted 08 August 2022 - 07:57 PM
Clay, you could use a thermostat housing (the cast iron part, not the alloy cover) with the threaded port on the drivers side.
You will also need an adapter to screw into the housing to install the sensor into.
#316
Posted 08 August 2022 - 07:57 PM
Did a run on 91 getting 23.5mpg. It was a cocktail with some 98 already in the tank. Filled with 91 again and noticed a very slight ping way down low. I reckon I can notice a fall off in pick-up.
Can anyone advise me on running this 1/4npt temp gauge sender while retaining idiot light, or too hard? The oil won't be a problem, been there. I think last time I did the temp gauge was a blue head and it had a spare port I used.
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Clay, you probly can run both your Idiot light and temp gauge..
A mate has an electric gauge sender into his thermostat housing on EH.
And his idiot light sender plumbed into the rear of head heater hose outlet.
So, its doable.
#317
Posted 08 August 2022 - 08:11 PM
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#318
Posted 09 August 2022 - 06:39 PM
There was a slight splutter around 4000rpm but de-coke run seems to have cleared it. Went to GPS measured 118kmh in second for a calculated 5000rpm. Smooth as silk and just wanted to keep revving.
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#319
Posted 24 August 2022 - 07:49 AM
By the cast date could well be 149 head. I wonder what the lift was on the HD HR X2 cam, not that it was matched to 149 head, but was apparently a high lift cam.
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#320
Posted 24 August 2022 - 09:08 AM
Clay, HD & HR X2, all 161S, 173S & 186S engines used the same camshaft with lift at the lobe of .2255", lift at the valve of .338"
#321
Posted 24 August 2022 - 01:03 PM
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#322
Posted 24 August 2022 - 04:46 PM
Thanks Dave. Not that much relative to mine. Any idea what a basic one was?
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Std 149 & 179 camshafts are listed as having the same lift figures as the X2/S camshaft.
.2255" lift at the lobe x 1.5 = .338" at the valve.
#323
Posted 24 August 2022 - 06:52 PM
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I could look at my MPC see f there is a different part number
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#324
Posted 24 August 2022 - 07:04 PM
#325
Posted 24 August 2022 - 07:23 PM
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