235 replies to this topic

[Zook]

I don't think you know much either.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

 round 2 has ended    round 3   the bell has rang    

 

round 3 has not began yet and dumb & dumber appear to have thrown the towel in........

[S pack]

round 3 has not began yet and dumb & dumber appear to have thrown the towel in........

How typical of you, resort to name calling when you are not winning and/or people are just not interested in playing in your kitty litter anymore.

Edited by S pack, 02 December 2021 - 06:55 AM.

[jjtheboss]

I don't think you know much either.

Who  are you talking to ?

Me ?

If you have something to say i am happy to speak to you 

 

All i am saying the CK cars are unicorns based on the data and numbers I have .  The true number matching cars are not there with all the goodies 

Eg 

Alternator

Ck block 

Three Tags 

Black outs correct if restored 

Date coded gear box etc

 

cheers 

[LCK186]

zook hi  a clown u say I don't think so    what does zook  actually stand for    u seem to talk a lot  of crap    as jj the boss stated im also happy to speak to you about toranas    70  green rings a bell  definatly not a ck

[Zook]

Who  are you talking to ?
Me? 

Yes you. We're all quite aware that there are not many left.

zook hi  a clown u say I don't think so    what does zook  actually stand for    u seem to talk a lot  of crap    as jj the boss stated im also happy to speak to you about toranas    70  green rings a bell  definatly not a ck

Zook was my first forum name when I had a Suzuki Sierra and was part of the Sierra/Jimny scene. Heady days.You'd be aware that they are known as Zooks. I'm happy to talk to you too but when you make ridiculous claims I sort of lose interest. Haha, yes I talk a lot of crap. How many ACT residents had CKs? Plus, I lived in Sydney for a while. LOL, you guys make me laugh.

[LCK186]

zook hi    im more than happy to chat about cars with u   weather toranas fords  Suzuki  etc etc      but sometimes u do go to far   u know what lets start all over again  fresh start    but u do spin some crap  from time to time   lol     as long as we are good on the forum   regards  dazza

[jd lj]

zook hi    im more than happy to chat about cars with u   weather toranas fords  Suzuki  etc etc      but sometimes u do go to far   u know what lets start all over again  fresh start    but u do spin some crap  from time to time   lol     as long as we are good on the forum   regards  dazza

As has been stated previously, your posts really are annoying to read due to the lack of full stops and capital letters. It's fair enough to miss a few occasionally but yours are on every line of every post. Do you ever read your own posts? Please take the time to put some effort into what you type, quite often I find it useful to press "More Reply Options" prior to pressing "Post".

By the way, google weather vs whether.

Now I really sound like a pain in the ..... don't I?

[LCK186]

James hi. I was lazy not putting full stops. I will put more effort in the future. I see that u have an SVO. a special car indeed. look after it. they are worth a pretty penny in todays market.

[jd lj]

I hope that no personal offense was taken. That wasn't my intention.
My car probably isn't the type of special vehicle order that you are thinking of. However I'll take care of it.

[LCK186]

James all good mate.   no offence taken.

[grumpy xu1]

Names are always in capital letters, commars like this are to get the reader to pause, think & then continue reading. A full stop is end of what that sentence should contain, not the end of the topic. It's fairly basic, but yes it would make reading your posts a lot easier. Thank you.

[grumpy xu1]

ROUND FIVE WILL BE A KNOCK OUT .
IF YOU HAVE  THE DETAILS  ON THE ADEL AND BRIS CARS  AND HISTORY ON THEM .
YOU ARE TALKING  ABOUT A UNICORN THESE CARS ARE LIKE GOLD THAT ALL I AM SAYING .
AND THEY DONT EXIST IN COMPLETE FORM .
AND ONLY A  FEW IN COMPLETE CONDITION .......
CHEERS 
..

Caps Lock doesn't need to be on ! & The several full stops appear to be an aggrevated response. Why can't it be a polite discussion amongst enthusiasts ?

[Zook]

zook hi im more than happy to chat about cars with u weather toranas fords Suzuki etc etc but sometimes u do go to far u know what lets start all over again fresh start but u do spin some crap from time to time lol as long as we are good on the forum regards dazza

All good mate, no harm done.

[grumpy xu1]

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DING, DING

Identical model = Holden 1971 lc Torana GTR XU1 2door sedan, all steel outer & inner panels as per factory, mono construction, (no seperate chassis) 6 cylinder 3 Venturi's 4 speed Holden gearbox & factory Holden differential, with varioushomogulated ratios & homogulated reinforced 5.5" steel wheels & approved tyres. There is no hidden wording in there that Dave hasn't stated. Take some time to read it again. It's not about Dave's right or you are. The rules tell the story. I'm not having a go at you, I'm just suggesting that that's clearly how it is worded. Things where worded differently in the 70's & there where manufacturers bringing cars from other countries to race possibly.

[I'm a Red Motor fiend]

Fair dinkum, what the f@#k just happened to this thread.

Grammar and punctuation are not everybodies strength.

Why can't people just participate without being bagged?

[jd lj]

thisisthe Goodest toranaforumis there why not maintain quality some

That was actually hard to do.

[Indy Orange]

I was neva good at gramma.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

 There is no hidden wording in there. Take some time to read it again. The rules tell the story. I'm not having a go at you, I'm just suggesting that that's clearly how it is worded. 

 

 

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Quote : same mechanical components. End Quote.

 

Quote : "Mechanical components" include all parts for the propulsion. End Quote.

 

The first 200 identical units were not permitted to have any mechanical components changed under Australian rules. Both diff & gearbox ratios are required to be fitted in production. 

 

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An Australian manufacturer was required to fit one ratio to 200 identical units & the other ratio to 100 units. Ratios are required to be fitted in production.

The building of 200 identical units all fitted with the 3.36 ratio does not homologate 2 ratios under Australian rules. It only homologates 1 ratio.

It is the reason Holden produced 300 August & September 1972 LJ XU-1's with nibless rims. The extra 100 homologated the 3.55 diff ratio.......

[S pack]

^^^What a total load of bullshit.

The FIA & CAMS rules are clear and explicit in their meanings and you still can't understand them.

You twist them to say things they don't say to suit your fairytale.

 

The (Not appliccable to the Australian 200) applies to the 50% rule regarding two gearboxes with a different number of ratios and different in their staging.

 

I'll fix this for you.

 

In 1972 (as in previous years) manufacturers were allowed to homologate TWO final drive ratios for the minimum production of the model. However in 1972 (and only 1972) for the 1st time they were now required to fit the minimum production of 200 cars one of the those two ratios, which automatically homologated the other optional/alternative ratio. Having to build 300 cars for homologation of two ratios is pure fiction. The LJ XU1 and XA GT homologations documents don't lie.. For the minimum production for recognition of the respective models both manufacturers homologated TWO final drive ratios.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Now all you need to do is show us all the documentation that states the first 200 cars were fitted with 2 different ratios. 50% or 100 cars each ratio.......

[salxu1]

So what is a CK worth?

[Rockoz]

Once more the debate on the little Toranas goes round and round and round.

To continue the reference from the 12th Man, this is just so frocking boring.

 

Billy Birmingham was a legend.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

What this tells me is that there was a required minimum.

If they only built the required minimum, then half of them had to have one of the ratios.

If they produced more than the minimum, then they still only had to have the same number of cars with one of the ratios.

 

If the minimum was 200, then 100 would have to have the alternative ratio.

If they produced 300, then they still only needed 100 of the alternative ratio.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[lj72bathurst]

So what is a CK worth?

$350.000