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[tonytorana]

Hello everyone I'm sure this will be a hated topic, I understand most people on here don't care about moving away form liquid dinosaurs and will just deal with fuel prices increasing for the indefinite future. That said, I would like to move on from petrol for my LX sedan and stick an electric motor in the front. I'm not overly worried about range, the charging infrastructure will get better overtime and so will batteries. I havnt started anything as yet and would like to know if there are any other people doing something similar on here?

Thanks for reading

[hanra]

Look towards hydrogen and don’t get fooled into thinking lithium is green.

Edited by hanra, 27 February 2022 - 07:54 PM.

[stevemc32]

Sounds like an interesting project.  Have you looked into the conversion kits that are available?

[tonytorana]

I haven't looked into anything too seriously yet. From what I can tell. The cost is very high, most places saying somewhere around 30 to 40 grand...
I'm sure it could be done cheaper. Unless the batteries are what's costing a fortune.

[stevemc32]

They do look pricey!  I'm certainly interested to see what you can come up with if you decide to put it together yourself, I haven't spent a lot of time researching it just yet but I think it's a worthwhile project.

[neglectedtorana]

I think it will be something I look at in the future, hopefully e85 will be a temporary solution but eventually EV will be the only option

There are a few conversions about, I have a memory of a Torana in NZ that was converted and the Plymouth and Landcruiser below

 

Good luck with the build,

 

https://www.holley.c...nd_muscle_cars/

 

https://www.electric...onversions/fj45

[RallyRed]

For a non daily, I also think it would be an interesting project.

Will miss the engine noise for sure, but as a techo type project it would be very interesting.

 

I guess there are things  like delete radiator, exhause, gearbox etc etc that would open up a lot of possibilities.  Then......battery placement?

[jd lj]

I'd assume that there will be quite a demand for doing these conversions in the future. I'll get my soldering iron out now and get started.

[dattoman]

There's a couple of minesites using electric Landcruiser utes

 

I can see it being a thing once motors become cheaper and more available

 

There's already a bolt in to replace SBC

[hanra]

I have to laugh. They are building more of those stupid wind turbines up here. Clearing acres of un touched forest. And then having an army of police/pilot vehicles to escort the big trucks carrying each turbine blade hundreds of klms from port to site. How much fossil fuel is used just to transport the things to site. Then the works involved in clearing the forest and erecting them. All fossil fuel powered.

[claysummers]

They all come from Norway or somewhere. The embodied energy must be huge. It is about money and greed, sold to all us sheep as saving the planet. Finding new ways to use energy is more popular and profitable than convincing us to use less energy. I’ve heard people say they think they look spectacular. SA is bristling with them.


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[Rockoz]

Going back about 30 years ago there was a small windfarm near Crookwell NSW.

It was unique and was a bit of a tourist attraction.

I stopped at it and read the info on it.

I drove past it a couple of times a year for a few years on my way to burn lots of fossil fuels with my mates on Wyangala Dam. Water skiing.

During that period I was also working on a job building a Coal Seam Gas power plant.

We installed 94 x V16 Caterpillar Gas Engines coupled to alternators knocking out about 1MW each.

It was good for the environment. Previously the methane was just vented to the atmosphere.

It wasnt pure enough to pump into the nearby gas pipeline.

 

Fast forward a heap of years.

I had heard about all the windmills being erected but hadnt actually seen any of the farms.

They just werent in any of the areas I travelled.

 

After I had my crash, the insurance company in their infinite wisdom decided I needed to travel to Canberra to see one of their specialists.

To say that I was surprised when I got close to Bungendore would be a huge understatement.

The landscape is blighted with these white monstrosities all over what was once picturesque landscape.

 

What was once an oddity and a curiosity at Crookwell had bred like proverbial rabbits and totally dominated and destroyed a landscape.

 

When I moved to Cowra recently I did lots of trips through a landscape wrecked by these things.

And, not surprisingly, most of the time less than half of them were spinning.

The best would have been about 80%, but that was on a single trip.

On one trip, most of them were on a powered rotation. That is, they were being spun, using power, to prevent bearing damage.

 

The only reason that these things have become profitable, was the subsidies they took from the government initially, and the creation of the National Energy Market.

Had the prices for generated power been kept at what was previously paid to generators, instead of becoming a commodity to trade, wind power would have never become the monstrous eyesore it is now.

 

When I was on the Coal Seam gas project, from memory they were paid about 8 cents per kW/h averaged.

And it was a profitable enterprise at that.

 

Spot prices for energy now are getting up around 2 dollars per kW/h for 15 minute blocks.

And now, some producers are being charged for generating power.

 

The world has gone crazy.

 

Have a read of this page.

It gives a different picture of climate than a lot of people seem to be promoting.

 

https://www.farmonli...-thought/536258

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[clarky9999]

These blokes are doing Landrovers not cheap project but worth a look

 

Vehicles — Classic electric vehicles for adventure — Jaunt (jauntmotors.com)

[claysummers]

That's not going to be cheap.

My neighbour is very environment concious and did an early conversion on a Lancer. It wasn't perfect, range and reliability and the batteries of the day a few years ago. He isn't mechanical but handy and in an EV club. Recently sold it and bought a Nissan Leaf $42k.

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[tonytorana]

Well I'm not really asking for much from the batteries aside from making the car move, power the lights, provide heat and maybe electric gauges and air-conditioning. But I'm planning go move to tassie someday so air-conditioning probably won't be high on the list.

[Heath]

Air con asks a lot of the batteries, I believe.

 

Electric cars are heavy. One of the main appeals of a Torana is the low weight.

Any idea what kind of change you'd expect?

[RallyRed]

I happened to be looking around on the Ford U.S site today, at those big F150 type utes.

Some have the optional 397amp alternator package...that is a pile of amps.

All you need is the 7 litre diesel to run it.....lol

[Heath]

Yeah, people in California etc. are rationalising buying those F-150's to generate power for their houses in emergencies aren't they? Because the mains power supply is so unreliable, lol.

 

And holiday accomodation etc.

[RallyRed]

I guess the 400amp rating is at around 5-6000rpm, a diesel prob. never get there anyway.  

Apparently at idle you'd expect around 120 - 140 amps.

Thus , if in some sort of service duty which a heap of lights, A/C, trailer etc and extended idling, prob. only enough to keep the battery charging.

 

I like the thought of a F150 idling out the back of the house 24/7.  lol...oh Greta!

[Heath]

About 7kW


This has nothing to do with an electric Torana, and I'm not sure why you brought it up in this thread. Just replying, lol.

[RallyRed]

All good, interesting.

I brought it up to suggest, maybe an a pair of alternators ( like F150's can have) would recharge your car's motive batteries pretty quickly.

If you had a hybrid EV Torana it could be of interest.  

[rexy]

This should spice it up?

 

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[RallyRed]

Cheaper than a hot 6!

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