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[Rockoz]

The place where I did my apprenticeship, the boss had a white cane and a pair of Coke-bottle glasses (really thick-lenses) hanging on the wall, which he jokingly called the pink slip inspection kit!

 

A 45 minute long inspection would be the exception, rather than the rule. Most times the car didn't even go on the hoist. A lot depended on whether it was a regular customer as well.

 

I'd reckon your blue slip guy was more interested in having a look over the Torana because it was a Torana, which is why it was such a thorough inspection. Half the time a copper will pull you over just because he wants to look at the car rather than something sinister, but that also comes down to whether you pass or fail the attitude test too.

 

With NSW Pink Slip Inspection guidelines, the car doesnt actually need to go on a hoist for the inspection.

The front end is supposed to be lifted to check front suspension components for excessive wear, but that is all.

 

My mate was audited by RMS and they put the vehicles on a hoist for a more thorough inspection, finding issues on one that werent observable during the mandatory testing. The car in question looked to be in very good condition, and passed all of the required inspections.

RMS found some rust in the inner sill panel that wouldnt have been able to be seen during a normal routine inspection.

He had his inspection privileges suspended for 3 months from memory.

He appealed the decision, stating that the missed rust would not have been visible during the specified inspection guidelines.

Didnt matter to RMS.

Guess they had to meet some sort of quota to keep up with their KPIs to justify their existence.

 

Having a mechanical and panel beating operation he had incentive to find rust problems, but this car because of its condition didnt trigger his spidey senses to get some work.

 

It did make him do more thorough inspections after, meaning that he wasnt making near the money that he should have been.

We sat down and worked out the figures, and for him to make reasonable money, and not have anything slip through that he could get pinged for, he would have had to have charged 4 times the inspection fee

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[Bigfella237]

They have some weird rules. One example I recall is that a broken wheel stud is (obviously) grounds for rejection, but if the car had hubcaps fitted you weren't required to remove them to check for broken wheel studs!

 

But yeah, the RMS (or DMV when I started) would like $150 worth of labour spent on every inspection, but then turns around and mandates that you can only charge $50. Needless to say that (mysteriously) almost every car inspected needed some kind of work done, which is, of course, where you made your money back.

 

I don't know how much longer NSW is going to continue with yearly inspections anyway, every other state has abolished them. It's a bit of a joke really. I mean a new vehicle doesn't need to be inspected for the first five years, but some vehicles could have 300,000kms on them and have been in several major accidents by then.

 

The other stupid thing is the rules for what vehicles are exempt and what aren't. For example, a new Hilux with a factory ute tub is exempt from the first five yearly inspections, but the same vehicle with a tray back isn't.

 

Anyway, it's tomorrow already... How'd ya go, Adz?

[Adz1604]

Right O.
Quick update.
Arrived 1/2 hour early and 2 police officers were there to great me with a licence check, drug and alcohol test. They assigned a park space for the car where 3 inspectors walked around it commented on how well it is presented, asked me to pop the bonnet, photos of the number plate, checked the compliance plates. While that was happening the investigator in charge of the operation had a quick chat about the club, how I found it, why I chose that particular club. Also commented on its presentation and thanked me for attending.
One of the inspectors said he was happy with the car and the investigator said I was right to go.
Less than 10 minutes in total
More time was spent asking me about the triple’s and rebuilding / tuning them, then checking the car

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[S pack]

Good result. Glad to hear it was pretty much a painless exercise at the end of the day.

Edited by S pack, 13 May 2023 - 03:39 PM.

[Bigfella237]

Yeah, sounds to me like they're just 'getting the numbers up'?

[Adz1604]

Yeah, sounds to me like they're just 'getting the numbers up'?

Was a good outcome for me
They had a few there pulling plates. Non engineered engine swaps. Couple with supercharger’s out the bonnet. Arriving and Leaving on trailers. Even had had couple of supra’s lined up in the parking lot not leaving. I assume they may of been a bit low

[Bigfella237]

Geez, you'd have to be a bit thick to turn up with a blower hanging out the bonnet and expect to be driving it home again.

 

It's a wonder there wasn't a line of tilt trays parked in there as well, sounds like they would've been raking it in.

 

BTW, to this day I still rate a turbo'd Supra as the fastest car I've ever driven (both in acceleration and outright speed), probably one of the only cars I've driven that'd come close to keeping up with a decent road bike!

[Dr Terry]

Was a good outcome for me
They had a few there pulling plates. Non engineered engine swaps. Couple with supercharger’s out the bonnet. Arriving and Leaving on trailers. Even had had couple of supra’s lined up in the parking lot not leaving. I assume they may of been a bit low

This is the issue. How the hell do these things get registered in the first place  (CVS or HVS) ? Generally speaking you can't get a big blower (out of the bonnet) on normal rego.

 

Dr Terry

[Bigfella237]

Sounds like your car was a mark in the "Nice" column, Adz. I wonder how many marks your club got in the "Naughty" column?

 

I was wondering what happens to your rego, even though you passed with flying colours, if your club gets suspended or removed from the scheme?

 

Maybe you should get your renewal done as soon as you can, just in case?

[Adz1604]

This is the issue. How the hell do these things get registered in the first place (CVS or HVS) ? Generally speaking you can't get a big blower (out of the bonnet) on normal rego.

Dr Terry

Not all cars inspected were on club rego.
Commodore with injection out the bonnet.
2 supra’s parked in the car park not moving
There was a really nice rod with a pump and carbs on a trailer
Another on a trailer with no driveline, exhaust, different colour bonnet and guards. I think they were trying to explain it was going through a rebuild. It didn’t have plates on it when I got there

[Adz1604]

Sounds like your car was a mark in the "Nice" column, Adz. I wonder how many marks your club got in the "Naughty" column?

I was wondering what happens to your rego, even though you passed with flying colours, if your club gets suspended or removed from the scheme?

Maybe you should get your renewal done as soon as you can, just in case?

Mine is booked in for an inspection this week. I went and spoke to the bloke that does mine and gave him the heads up last week. He assured me it would be fine but with a worried look at same time. Little concerned about the carbs.
Pretty sure the club will be okay. The way I see it. Its up to the owner of the car to make sure there car is compliant. The club should steer you in right direction as far as historic or mod along with the mechanic completing the inspection.
The club ask to see photos of the car but ultimately you as the owner are making the choice

[Gatti]

Good result 

[73LJAY]

Hey mate yes my visit to them was on the 13/5/23. Defected me for all my running gear.
I live in Penrith but they made me drive to Oran Park.

[rexy]

What was wrong with the running gear?

[73LJAY]

Got done for not Engineered. I'm running a V6 Chevy. When I bought the car it came with Engineering papers which I thought I was sweet. I answered a knock at my front door a few weeks back handing me a inspection notice to take the car to oran Park.
When I arrived the inspectors asked if it was engineered which I said yes. But turns out because the car was engineered in 2002 the rules changed in 2012 where it had to have the report number on your rego papers. Which was never done by the old owner. I received a defect notice for not engineered.
The original Engineer has past away so I'm now in the process of getting it redone.

[Bigfella237]

Damn that sucks! Caught up in the red tape...

 

If you have an engineer's report, all you should have to do is take that to a motor registry and get them to add the condition on the papers (all it says is 'Modified as per report #xxxxxx' across the bottom line).

 

It doesn't matter that the rules changed years later, it should go by whatever rules were in place at the time the original engineer's report was done. I guess that may have all changed now that you've been "inspected"?

 

Oh well, if you have to get re-engineered, may as well drop a V8 in first!

[Dr Terry]

Damn that sucks! Caught up in the red tape...

 

If you have an engineer's report, all you should have to do is take that to a motor registry and get them to add the condition on the papers (all it says is 'Modified as per report #xxxxxx' across the bottom line).

 

It doesn't matter that the rules changed years later, it should go by whatever rules were in place at the time the original engineer's report was done. I guess that may have all changed now that you've been "inspected"?

I agree, if you still have valid papers, they will be acceptable to the RMS.

 

Dr Terry

[gtrboyy]

Had a couple people tell me they've been followed by cop cars & lucky ones with engineers reports vsb14 on rego papers have been sweet ones without get pulled over.

 

 

Buying parts at Penrith workshop bloke there with nice vk calais 9x5 aircleaner out the bonnet,9.5 rear simmons...loud exhaust nothing crazy but got letter & email to rock up for an inspection...had not driven car in months except for cars n coffee shindig.

 

He changed it back to rego/stocky specs as expected....one of the inspectors/cops comments that it should have had simmons on it & silly air cleaner out the bonnet....

[Bigfella237]

So they've definitely been going around the shows / meets / cruises taking notes then. Another good reason to take your plates off while at a show, although I guess they could just as easy look up the engine or chassis number? Maybe cover the plates and keep the bonnet closed!

 

Makes you wonder what they do with cars that are on full rego, would they look up who wrote the pink slip and pay them a visit? Or are cars on full rego getting pulled in for these inspections as well?

[Rockoz]

There is a chance that it is a planned operation by Police.

Rather than pull over vehicles that dont quite look right, they record the number and have a whole heap of them turn up at a location for perusal.

That way they have all the relevant inspectors in the one spot to do their job.

They would likely be able to record a number plate with the press of a button to be considered for a further inspection date.

Technology is a wonderful thing.

There is even a chance that a helicopter flying around a specific location may have been used to record a number plate.

Having seen the capabilities of even the NSWRFS chopper mounted cams, that is a possible scenario.

Joe Public is getting sick and tired of hoons disrupting their peace and quiet, and the Police are responding it looks like.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[Redslur]

Simple really, modify your car within the regs or make sure you have it engineered. People who get done shouldn't whinge, they know they run the gauntlet. Part of the game isn't it :-)

[yel327]

Simple really, modify your car within the regs or make sure you have it engineered. People who get done shouldn't whinge, they know they run the gauntlet. Part of the game isn't it :-)

 

I agree.

 

I also hope the rest of Australia catches up and has annual "pink slip" type inspections like NSW. I can't believe how backward it is in other States where a car can go 50 years or more and never be inspected, only inspected upon change of hands. I can only imagine the accidents waiting to happen driving around.

[S pack]

I agree.
 
I also hope the rest of Australia catches up and has annual "pink slip" type inspections like NSW. I can't believe how backward it is in other States where a car can go 50 years or more and never be inspected, only inspected upon change of hands. I can only imagine the accidents waiting to happen driving around.

Most accidents waiting to happen are because the driver is not roadworthy rather than the vehicle.

[Dr Terry]

Most accidents waiting to happen are because the driver is not roadworthy rather than the vehicle.

That's very true, but mix an unroadworthy driver with an unroadworthy car & you have deadly combination.

 

Dr Terry

[IanC]

And add a dash of unroadworthy roads.. and bingo.