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[Shiney005]

Did you end up finding a shifter handle?

[redtorana#3]

Did you end up finding a shifter handle?

Na mate not yet. Keeping a good eye on Gummy etc

[RallyRed]

Nice work.
First one Iv'e seen for a while without the factory installed rust behind the bonnet hinges.

[redtorana#3]

Plodding along having fun doing bits and pieces.

As long as I achieve something every day I'll get there. Not getting into a deep permanent show quality resto is keeping me moving while I learn from all that is available.

Every thing I am doing is to get the car licenced and on the road and not deteriorate over the next couple of years while being driven.

 

The hoist has been invaluable. I could not do this work laying on my stuffed back.

These couple of pics show some progress with cleaning, rust treatment and painting. It will be interesting to see how good or bad I have done in a couple of years.

I'm so glad I (quickly) decided to have a look in the fan ducting. Now a bit cleaner.

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[Hatchback13]

Cool project Brad, inspiring and love the hoist have toyed with the idea but not sure my old concrete will handle it haha. What brand did you choose? Is there any link or page regarding Heath’s digital dash’s? I’d like to know the info if possible. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Brad

[yel327]

I reckon there would be clever ways to make a hoist work with less than ideal slab. Like some steel plate to put under the legs, talking 20mm thick, to spread the load out. Or use an old Molnar, they have big outriggers on them.

[redtorana#3]

Cool project Brad, inspiring and love the hoist have toyed with the idea but not sure my old concrete will handle it haha. What brand did you choose? Is there any link or page regarding Heath’s digital dash’s? I’d like to know the info if possible. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Brad

Hi Brad and thanks, the hoist is a 'Classic Lift 4000' and there is a YouTube vid of Heath's dash. Just do a search for 'Speedhut Digital' and it will pop right up.

I contacted him through that I think but I do have his Email address if you like. The hoist manufactures can supply extra floor braces for 'unfooted' concrete.

 

This page will not allow links to be posted otherwise I would have done that. Cheers

 

 

 

Edited by redtorana#3, 17 June 2024 - 11:06 PM.

[Shiney005]

Cool project Brad, inspiring and love the hoist have toyed with the idea but not sure my old concrete will handle it haha. What brand did you choose? 

I got a 4 poster because they come with jockey wheels these days so you can move them around.  Even outside if you want to degrease under the car.

https://aaq.net.au/

 

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[Hatchback13]

Nice, the extra large footings sound like a good idea and the four poster being able to move around is awesome. I’ll check out the YouTube too. Thanks for all the info. Look forward to some more updates on the torana. Cheers

[CYCO355]

Nice, the extra large footings sound like a good idea and the four poster being able to move around is awesome. I’ll check out the YouTube too. Thanks for all the info. Look forward to some more updates on the torana. Cheers

I got mine with these outriggers from classic lift a few years ago now, concrete is only about 70mm where I installed it. One day I might move it and cut out some of the old floor and lay some new 150mm concrete down.


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[yel327]

I got mine with these outriggers from classic lift a few years ago now, concrete is only about 70mm where I installed it. One day I might move it and cut out some of the old floor and lay some new 150mm concrete down.


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I reckon with the outriggers and the offset arms (so the nose of the car is closer to centre) one of these would almost stand up by itself, not that you'd do it. The units without the outriggers both me, so little footprint for a cantilevered load.

[yel327]

I got a 4 poster because they come with jockey wheels these days so you can move them around.  Even outside if you want to degrease under the car.

https://aaq.net.au/

 

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I have the same parking hoist in my garage Laurie, just the extra height version. I tried it without bolting it down and levelling it and I wouldn't trust it at full height with a car on it, it was wobbly as hell. The floor has a small slope on it and one end ended up needing 60mm of packers.

[redtorana#3]

My footings for the hoist are 800mm x 800mm x 250mm with extra reinforcing mesh.

I planned for a hoist six years ago when building the shed.

[redtorana#3]

Got my M20 back after lots of new bits and fair bit of coin.

Looks and rotates smooth as.

Things are getting serious now.

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[redtorana#3]

Just one more step deeper.

I noticed a small oil drip from the front of the engine so am renewing the sump gasket. The previous owner/builder used some kind of sealant that peeled straight off when removing it.

This has given me an opportunity to check the lower part of the bores that look brand new and also clean out the sludge of old oil in the sump.  Happy to report no metal or moisture. 

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[Rockoz]

That sealant doesnt look particularly nice.

 

Years ago though, I first used Wurth Hi Temp sealant.

It was brilliant at keeping everything in the parts of the engine they were supposed to be in.

I remember needing a cricket bat to get the sump off a 350 Chev it sealed that well.

Thought it was going to be a drama to clean up, but needed nothing more than fingers to get the stuff off.

Used it to seal the ends of V8 manifolds without gaskets many times without leaks.

It was unique back in the 90s when I found it, but no doubt most companies now have a very similar product.

Permatex works almost as good. It seals well, but is a bit harder to clean off.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[yel327]

With that sump off I'd crack a main and a rod bearing and have a look. Maybe plastiguage it. In the past when I've bought good running 308/304 they have had good compression with hone marks in the bores even with the car showing 125,00kM, but bearings looked pretty secondhand. A few times I've replaced them with the same size as what was already there and they've been good.

[Bruiser]

I second Yel327’s idea
Whipped my sump off a while ago, to re-seal a bad leak, motor just jacked up still in the car
Checked a few bearings, and rear main rope seal, found it all needs a birthday.
Motor is out now for a freshen up.
Might hurt a bit now if you find something a bit worn, but far better off doing it
while she’s upside down on a stand.
Can be a rabbit hole, but you only need to go as far as you want to
Next thing the heads are off, pistons and rods are out to see bores and your modest plans
have blown out to buggery
I was thinking the front oil weep could be the crank seal in the timing cover..
May as well do that too(?)

[yel327]

In my experience 308's seem to be reasonably kind to rings, especially the injected 5litre engines. It's the cam/lifters and bearings that seem to be more wear prone.

[redtorana#3]

With that sump off I'd crack a main and a rod bearing and have a look. Maybe plastiguage it. In the past when I've bought good running 308/304 they have had good compression with hone marks in the bores even with the car showing 125,00kM, but bearings looked pretty secondhand. A few times I've replaced them with the same size as what was already there and they've been good.

Thanks for the idea but this engine has done less than 500Km since being machined and rebuilt.

I have all the receipts for the work. Cheers

[redtorana#3]

In my experience 308's seem to be reasonably kind to rings, especially the injected 5litre engines. It's the cam/lifters and bearings that seem to be more wear prone.

Ok guys I took your advise and had a look as I wanted to remove the oil pickup to remove some gunky old oil deposits and had to remove a mains bolt any way.

There was one small mark I could see on the crank and the bearing looked perfect. It's all back together now and the engine is back on the K frame with new mounts ready to accept the flywheel and clutch ETC.

Also have a look at the attached picture please and let me know the significance of the 'tang' on my engine mount if you might know.

Cheers

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[neglectedtorana]

I don't know but I'll have a guess the tang is some sort of attachment to put a chain or threaded rod in case of breaking an engine mount.

Just my guess, 

 

The minimal resto looks good, lots of hard hand work going on there, well done!

[yel327]

Factory C60 HQ-HZ have a stay that goes from the mount adapter to the compressor. It might be for that. I’ll get a photo of my HJ Premier’s mount adapter.

[LJ RB30]

Yeah brace mount for Aircon compressor I believe

[redtorana#3]

Thanks for the replies Re the bracket. No aircon but it can stay there.

Achieved getting the Aussie fitted up. This included shimming the Wilwood Hydraulic thrust bearing with supplied shims. Unfortunately I could not find the instructions for the required gap from the face of the thrust bearing to the clutch plate so just went with all the shims for a gap of about 1mm. If it needs redoing it will be a simple task at this stage.

The hydraulic pressure and breather line needed to be routed out of the bellhousing and I finally took the plunge and drilled the required holes for them. Really didn't like doing that but F it!

So looking pretty good except the supplied pressure line extension has got a fitting on the end of it that won't fit the kit reservoir. Bit strange.

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