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[claysummers]

From memory 3 or 4mm. Mine required the removal of a shim after I had it in the car and done a few hundred km, which I achieved without removing the box, by cutting one of the shims with a pair of offset aviation snips and pulling out with multi grips.


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[LJ RB30]

Not old school gear but in my VE 6lt 6 speed I put a VZ concentric slave cylinder in with stock LS3 fly clutch & pressure plate & 5mm clearance is what the clutch guy told me to do.
When asked why he simply explained that as the clutch beds in & wears the fingers on the pressure plate move rearward at a greater rate because of the leverage ratio.
Made sense to me 👍

[redtorana#3]

From memory 3 or 4mm. Mine required the removal of a shim after I had it in the car and done a few hundred km, which I achieved without removing the box, by cutting one of the shims with a pair of offset aviation snips and pulling out with multi grips.


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Yep 4mm. My gearbox guy had the instructions.

[redtorana#3]

With the gearbox all set up and on the engine it's time to do different stuff.

The fuel tank plumbing is all too hard at the moment so I decided to tackle the hydraulic clutch pedal install. All went well and it fitted fine after removing the auto type brake pedal and undoing and moving the steering column.

So leads to a question. As you can see the one I removed is at the back and the other one I have is totally different so I'm a bit stuck. I was thinking to remove the metal pad off the original and replace with the smaller one form the other.

What have any of you done? What do you suggest please?

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[dale]

That front pedal looks like a big holden pedal. I changed mine from auto to manual and my brake pedal matches the clutch pedal with the smaller square type.

[redtorana#3]

That front pedal looks like a big holden pedal. I changed mine from auto to manual and my brake pedal matches the clutch pedal with the smaller square type.

Ok I'm seeing the difference now after checking some out on Fleebay thanks dale.

So there at least three different types. Huge, medium and small.

[dale]

You just need a LH or LX brake pedal not LC,LJ. I have seen people cut the auto brake pedal down to take the smaller rubber pad like on the clutch pedal.

[76lxhatch]

I have seen people cut the auto brake pedal down to take the smaller rubber pad like on the clutch pedal.

This. You don't need to swap the metal pad, just trim the left side and round the corners so it fits the manual rubber pad.

[dale]

This. You don't need to swap the metal pad, just trim the left side and round the corners so it fits the manual rubber pad.

This is what I meant. Obviously didn't ex[plain it very clearly.

[Cook]

From memory doesn't the auto pedal have a bend in the shaft to accommodate the larger pad whereas the manual brake pedal shaft is straighter or am I thinking about something else. Cheers Ron

[Heath]

I don't think the arm varies between the two... I can't think or why it would have to. I believe it is just the pad size.

But I don't think that both of those brake pedals above suit an LH/LX/UC Torana. For one, an LH/LX Torana doesn't have "DISC" written on the pad, plus it looks like an unfamiliar shape to me. I think that pedal is from some other model of Holden.

[yel327]

I don't think the arm varies between the two... I can't think or why it would have to. I believe it is just the pad size.

But I don't think that both of those brake pedals above suit an LH/LX/UC Torana. For one, an LH/LX Torana doesn't have "DISC" written on the pad, plus it looks like an unfamiliar shape to me. I think that pedal is from some other model of Holden.

 

Heath is right, they are a Holden pedal, potentially Statesman. Not off a Torana.

[EunUCh]

There are slight differences between the 2 pedals for Torana ,the small pad pedal has a more pronounced bend on it whereas the large pad pedal is more of a"slight curve".

[hanra]

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[redtorana#3]

I don't think the arm varies between the two... I can't think or why it would have to. I believe it is just the pad size.

But I don't think that both of those brake pedals above suit an LH/LX/UC Torana. For one, an LH/LX Torana doesn't have "DISC" written on the pad, plus it looks like an unfamiliar shape to me. I think that pedal is from some other model of Holden.

Yep, think it is HQ. Not using that one.

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Perfect. Done. Thanks Hanra.

[redtorana#3]

Couldn't find a decent shifter stick so I made one.

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[redtorana#3]

Thank you guys who chimed in re my brake pedal requirements.

It is now modified and installed. Also mounted the Malwood clutch reservoir as per a post I saw here cheers for that.

More manual than auto now. Just need to sort the reverse wiring and the park start sensor. 

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Edited by redtorana#3, 18 August 2024 - 07:00 PM.

[Shiney005]

Start switch would only be a matter of joining the wires???

[yel327]

Start switch would only be a matter of joining the wires???

 

That's what they did on Holdens. There was a plug with a bridge across the two pins that simply plugged into the harness. When you ever converted a 4spd manual to a T-bar, you simply used the T-bar harness. You just removed that bridge plug, and plugged in there, into the reverse switch plug in the harness (after removing the 4spd harness), into a grey wire plug for the console shift light and there was also a 0V ring to attach to a chassis connection behind the dash. So all you have to do is find a manual HQ-WB, probably VB-VK and LH-UC and get the little bridging plug out of it. I assume LH-LX is the same as UC was, I've used a number of UC T-bars and harness into HQ-WB, as they come with their own shift indicator, and they are often left side shift which is good for TH400, TH350 or even for HT-HG or Commodore/WB standard shift Trimatic (not the modified GMH version with RH shift). 

[jeffblanco]

Hi Brad,

could you the measurement between the clutch and brake pedals.

My clutch is set up as the Mal Wood but the gap is to big and the park pedal is fouling.

I am putting the clutch pedal tonight so it can be about 40 - 50mm closer to the brake.

 

Regards Mando.

 

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[redtorana#3]

Hi Brad,

could you the measurement between the clutch and brake pedals.

My clutch is set up as the Mal Wood but the gap is to big and the park pedal is fouling.

I am putting the clutch pedal tonight so it can be about 40 - 50mm closer to the brake.

 

Regards Mando.

Here you go Mando,

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[jeffblanco]

Hi Brad,

thanks for the measurements.

Your pedals look great. I think my brake pedal looks bend that your car brake pedal looks straight.

 

Regards Mando.

[redtorana#3]

Hi Brad,

thanks for the measurements.

Your pedals look great. I think my brake pedal looks bend that your car brake pedal looks straight.

 

Regards Mando.

Thanks man. I'm sure you'll sort it.

[Heath]

This is good stuff!

 

Also, thanks for the note about the slightly different (lateral) curve in the manual vs. auto pedal. Subtle difference that probably doesn't have a big effect, but it's certainly there. That photo shows it perfectly.

[redtorana#3]

Took my fuel tank to work and had a look inside with our borescope.

Pleasantly surprised to see it so clean.

I quick rinse with some clean fuel before fitting it back is about all that is needed.

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