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[hanra]

Did splash back happen when fuelling up Toranas back in the day? Is it a design flaw of the fuel tank? Or was it due to pumps flowing lower rates?

When I used to fill my little red cute car up with Super, the tank is only 25L and it’s like filing a Jerry can, neck wise. So I never had an issue with the pumps back then.

How do you overcome slash back these days? I do my best to just pull the trigger a little bit. I have the nozzle about an inch into the neck. And carefully try and stare down the neck waiting for it to spew fuel out.

[kiwi-lilj]

I’ve been using the pull out method, haven’t had much luck.

[Bigfella237]

I'm wondering if the big breather tube from the tank up to the top of the filler neck is blocked/kinked/whatever?

 

It's a hose about ¾" diameter and it's there to stop that happening.

[76lxhatch]

Pretty sure a lot of the pumps have higher pressure these days, I generally try to avoid full trigger. Better when it's quiet so you can hear before it comes back up the filler.

 

If the filler breather is blocked you'll struggle to get much of anything into the tank without it coming back out immediately, it will be a major problem. But even in working condition it's still an issue most of the time; you could probably improve it with a larger/separate breather and a more modern neck that seals around the nozzle but a lot of work. It's always a battle with the low filler height regardless.

 

Some attendants will try to tell you to pull the nozzle further out, this can work when there's a separate breather but with the one integrated into the neck the nozzle must go in past it or you'll block it off with the fuel coming in. It's a balance between this and having an angle that causes the least turbulence for best flow into the tank - there seems to be a sweet spot where it gets around the sharp bend with slightly less back pressure.

[Rockoz]

Hahahahaha

 

Brings back memories of being a bowser boy.

Every low mounted fuel filler, basically those behind the number plates, were not much fun to fill.

After being splashed with fuel a heap of times, you learned the trick to dealing with it.

It was a matter of listening more than anything else.

You could generally hear when the tank was getting close to full.

It was a gurgling type noise as the last of the air was getting close to blowing the fuel back up the fill pipe.

That was the point at which you either slowed the delivery flow or stopped it for a second or so to let the air bleed a bit easier.

Then you slowly finished the job until the first click.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[yel327]

I don't remember ever having issues with any of the HQ-WB sedans/coupes, LH-LX Toranas or even my '57 Chevy (filler behind tail-light fin). Back then the pumps used to flow a lot faster than the piddling amount they put out today. It's the modern ones with the high inlets that seem to cause me problems, you have to fill them that slow it seems to take forever, even at full pace the pumps seem so slow today compared to the 80's. With a 120L tank in my Ram you sit there forever with it piddling into the tank.

[Ice]

I’ve been using the pull out method, haven’t had much luck.

Try leaving it in a bit longer then watch the magic happen 

[S pack]

I think it all depends on how sensitive the nozzle on the pump has been adjusted.

One afternoon at my local servo fuelling up my VZ Tonner it was a real PITA filling the tank. Had to fill it at a piddly slow trickle otherwise it kept clicking off if you tried to increase the flow a bit.

I had used that same pump many times before and it worked fine. Reported it to the attendant/cashier and he said the pumps had only just been serviced and calibrated that morning.

He must have reported my complaint as next time I used that same pump it worked fine again.

So I believe the problem is not so much the filler neck design, shape, length, height or diameter but how sensitive the fuel bowser nozzle automatic cut off has been set, esp at full flow.

 

Just my 5 cents.

[RallyRed]

Hmm...must just be me.  Having owned LC,LJ and LX...they were all a pain to refill. Splashback was not uncommon. 

[Ice]

Hmm...must just be me.  Having owned LC,LJ and LX...they were all a pain to refill. Splashback was not uncommon. 

Same  for me all 4 Toranas i owned same shit every time 

[claysummers]

Couldn’t be any worse than my FB ute. My first job at a servo, pre-auto stop handles, I was taught to listen for the change of tone and fuel gurgling up the pipe. The first time I got dizzy from the fumes, but it din din din affect me, I don’t think……


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[Chips]

ok. good to know it's not just me that has issues filling. this is one that been on my list to look into better ways for a while- as in years

 

I fill from a can and syphon pump so to have a full tank at home when parked and also as it's roughly +20c/l cheaper on Tuesdays and use the same can for bike top ups and track.

 

I listen for the gurgle then to be annoyed at the time and for the days after at the smelly leak in the garage floor from the overflow leak when I have the panic and put an oil change tray in there to save the mess.